Reply #305: Well that's what I get for Skimming the article. [View All]

[jwnparadise]

I already said I didn't support Bush's cuts, still don't.

I'll admit I got caught in Kerry's boat as far as believing the Pres should have the power to act, not thinking he would act unilaterally. With all of the Un's issues, one day we are going to realize that only the voice of the World can wield military force. They do have to use that voice though. I am not a pacifist.

Your argument concerning the trustworthiness of Bush needs no qualification, I just don't buy that Democrats are some how above wealth and privilege. I mean how nice of a neighborhood is Beacon Hill.

This whole argument is about politics. My point in posting here is to discuss the merits of the legislation. I try real hard to look at things these days on the facts considering the level of partisanship. I am not saying you aren't. It just seems that this thread is about partisanship more than debate, IMO. I am a independent who usually votes for third parties because neither party hits home for me right now. I voted for Kerry this time despite those reservations because Bush acted w/o the UN, and we will pay for it for awhile. There, you've been wanting me to say that the whole time :) I'll add that for the most part I am very liberal and completely secular.

I honestly think that Rainbow, Concord, and the ARRP don't have all of the facts due to misinformation and a general dislike of Republicans, look at all the different positions just in this thread. I could be wrong.

I believe in this program partially because it is not Bush's idea. More than anything though, I think this is the most progressive form of taxation and the fairest to the working class. I think Bush has a huge ego and more than anything else, wants to be remembered as the Conservative FDR. Then when it works, solidify the GOP as the majority party for a long time, an idea I don't want to contemplate.

Groups like these do support it.

Citizens Against Government Waste
American Farm Bureau
American Taxpayer Union
(I don't have the skinny on these groups - they seem honorable to me)

For the record, thank you very much for the discussion even if we can't agree.