Reply #58: You haven't been watching this situation with open eyes for very long, [View All]

[tom_paine]

have you?

First off, and I can tell you from experience, tht politics makes ones 'conservative'. Oh, not the Bushevik Meaning of the word or even the ACTUAL meaning of the word, but the meaning wehich is synonymous with overcaution.

That works against the Dems in general, and also what works is the Dems is their own internal misunderstanding of the situation, in which they still think they live in the Old United States of America and are facing other Americans, just another political movement like hundreds that have passed before.

But the Caesars are no political movement, the Caesars are finality, Caesars are the ends, and when Caeser crossed the Rubicon, as he did in 48 BC and again in 2000 AD.

But I drift from my point. Your line of reasoning "well, it would have surely come out if it was true" only applies to Free Nations, NOT to Amerika. Only to nations with a functioning media and a strong, vibrant Constitution. NOT the dying, decaying wreckage of past glories, as we have here and now.

The Dems are chiefly characterized by fear. They dare not even speak truths for which they HAVE evidence, because by now they are fully aware that there is no lie that 24/7 shrieking from the Bushevik Totalitarian Sub-Media can't launder, no truth they cannot obfuscate, with ease.

And they fear. And they quail. Further, now that the chains of uninspectable unverifiable electronic "voting" is being fastened around our necks, there isn't even any evidence to find, anymore.

In order for America to work, you need people who believe in it's principles, and we simply don't have enough, at least at the higher levels, to maintain it.

And so it died a quiet and ignominious death in 2000, barely marked and not even remembered, as the Busheviks wear it's corpse around their necks like "Weekend at Bernie's".

My point is that to assume that the Dems would stand up for ANYTHING is a fallacy. Because Tyranny, whether it be in the schoolyard or the Imperial Congress, ALWAYS takes two to tango. It takes the ruthless bully, but it also takes the gutless wimp's co-operation.

To be honest, I feel pity for the vast majority of folks who cannot see what lies ahead. It's funny, because it's all there in the history books. Hell, it's even in the theaters (Star Wars I-III).

But it is only so because it is a very old and depressing story, not because George Lucas is clairvoyant or anything.

I cannot convince you, only experience and time will do so. The paradox is that, by then it will be too late to do anything about it.

And here is the paradox of your position, and I can no more prove it to you than someone in 1933 Germany could prove to HIS neighbors of what lay ahead (yes, it will likely be Kinder and Gentler this time...no firing up the ovens). But here it is anyway:

You insist that the voting system is trustworthy and true. And that the reason we keep losing elections is because we focus too much on this issue. So that when we keep mysteriously losing (and we will, rest assured we will, no matter WHO votes for WHAT) you can keep saying it's because of this distraction.

Evetually, you will understand, and like the Geramsn of 1945, you will look back with shame and wonder how you could have been so easily duped, how you could have so easily denied the evidence of your eyes.

I have no answer for you, only pity. For we are all to blame for the Death of the Old United States, but some of us are more to blame than others.