Reply #186: South Africa and Refugee Case [View All]

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The Brandon Huntley case may or may not be farce but how do
you know? You have to prove that he is a liar and you cannot
do that.He has been so vilified and so much hatred directed
towards him that he has been found guilty before his case has
even been reviewed.

Are you saying that his claim to have been attacked and
stabbed on a number of occasions are nothing but a lie? Do you
perhaps believe that his scars are the result of self
inflicted wounds or the result or fights with other uneducated
whites males of the same class?

The same goes for the witness in the case, his lawyer's
sister, Laura Kaplan. She claimed that she had had similar
experiences to that of Huntley and had recently gone to Canada
as a result of violent attacks against her and the torturing
of her husband. Are you saying that she is also a liar and if
so can you prove it?

Are they both suffering from racial paranoia to such an extent
that these attacks are nothing but delusions or
hallucinations?

His lawyer states that he has been inundated to an
unbelievable degree with letters and messages of support from
white South Africans from South Africa and from all over the
world claiming similar experiences to Huntley.

I am also a white South African and have lived here all my
life. I have also been attacked four times, twice outside my
flat on Durban's North Beach, since the advent of ANC rule. I
wasnt stabbed but could have been as on each occasion knives
were used in the attacks, one knife held against my heart.All
the attacks were carried out, as is the case in ninety nine
percent of cases, by Black males.Whether there were any racial
feelings directed against me during these attacks I cannot
say.Only the attackers would have known the answer to that
question, and noone else, as they were not speaking
English.Have I also become racially paranoid? If so can I be
blamed for being on my guard and feeling slightly nervous
whenever I walk outside my building or down a lonely road when
I see a group of young Blacks walking towards me and feel
relieved once they have passed.
I also never bothered to report these attacks to the police as
such crimes are regarded as petty and are not taken seriously
by the police.

People are often attacked and stabbed in our area and many of
the Whites that used to live in our building have since left
the country citing similar experiences to that of
Huntley.Perhaps they have also become racially paranoid as
none of their attackers were Whites or members of other
minority groups.

Since the advent of ANC rule fifteen years ago over a million
White South Africans have left their country which is equal to
between twenty and twenty five percent of the Whites in South
Africa.This must surely represent an international record for
the number of any population group leaving their country in
such a short space of time during peacetime.Is there any other
country which has lost as many of its population within a
similar timeframe? The outflow is continuing, although it has
tapered off slightly as a result of the worldwide recession
but will no doubt recommence once the recession is over.In
most cases similar reasons as those given by Huntley are given
for leaving.The fear and insecurity of having to live with
endless and ever worsening black crime( which is not going to
end )and the desire to provide themselves and their children
with a better and more secure future which is also devoid of
discrimination ( for whatever reason, justified or not )in
employment and career opportunities.

A large number of those that have left or are leaving are also
people who have suffered horrific experiences at the hands of
violent Black criminals, have been left traumatised and
fearful and feel they can no longer live in South Africa.

You appear to be very dismissive of Whites who have suffered
such experiences of terror and are content to simply label
them as "paranoid racists".Is this not a case of
extreme arrogance on your part and totally lacking any form of
empathy.You describe most such Whites as socially unreformed
and in some way mentally deficient, thereby rendering them
incapable of either correctly assessing their own positions or
of assessing conditions in the country.What gives anyone the
right to decide how White South Africans should believe, feel
and think? You seem to have given youself the right to judge
and divide White South Africans into two groups, those that
pass your test of correctness and those that dont.A test based
on your own beliefs,experiences, perceptions and predjudices.

In view of South Africa's long violent past how is it possible
for anyone to truly and honestly believe that no degree of
animosity, resentment and hatred towards Whites exists amongst
large numbers of the Black population?Surely to believe so is
unrealistic and naive in the extreme.It is simply a matter of
common sense.We all know that race pervades every aspect of
life in this country with the possible exception of the
weather.There is no issue that is not tinged by race.Is there
any debate in parliament between the ANC and the mostly White
opposition where racial feelings are not present, even if not
necessarily expressed. Racial remarks are often made by Black
politicians, particualarly of late,and their use of the race
card is well known when challenged on any issue.Criticism by
any white person is always opposed by a show of black
solidarity whether the criticism is valid or not.Even black
judges are not immune. Judge Motata's racial tirade against
the white person who laid a charge against him for crashing
into the wall of his house whilst in a drunken state.Judge
Hlope calling a fellow White judge "a piece of white shit
who should go back to Holland".Malema calling Helen Zille
a racist little White girl who must do as she's told etc.Can
you imagine any White person making such remarks against
Blacks in public? Jimmy Manyi and his tirades and threats
against White owned businesses whenever a White CEO is
appointed. A former Minister of Security announcing in
parliament that if Whites are unhappy about crime in South
Africa they should simply leave the country (hardly a show of
willingness on the part of the government to protect White
South Africans)

Are these incidents and many others like them not expressions
of animosity, resentment and hatred largely as a result of
South Africa's historical legacy?

With ongoing anti-White rhetoric by Blacks in prominent
positions it is obvious that such sentiments also exist in the
Black population to a greater or lesser extent and would
naturally find expression in their most extreme form and be an
ingredient in much if not most of the violent interracial
crime perpetrated against the White population.

You mention the myth of the so-called "Farmer
Holocaust" and that being a White farmer in South Africa
is the most peaceful of occupations.

There are approximately 40000 White farmers in the country and
accordng to figures up to June this year 3086 of them have
been murdered since the ANC came to power in 1994.In other
words about seven and a half percent of their number have been
murdered over a period of fifteen years, often in the most
horrific manner including being humiliated and tortured to
death. In a number of cases the victims' body parts were
harvested from them while they were still alive in order to be
sold to witchdoctors for "muti"
Is there any other group that has lost seven and a half
percent of its members to murder since the ANC came to power?

Dr Gregory Stanton who was responsible for establishing the
Genocide Watchlist and who is a renowned expert on the subject
having studied genocides all over the world, came to the
conclusion after studying the nature and extent of the
brutality, humiliation and violence as well as the treatment
of the corpses in many of the farm murders that these murders
were no ordinary crimes but were in his words "hate
crimes'.His conclusion was that White farmers in South Africa
are probably at level four or five in the genocidal
process.(see below)

http://www.genocidewatch.org/images/SAfrica20020
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S71PbichSw
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X38CW61-em4
www.youtube.com/watch?v=B70d2Z9yago

Its strange that those engaged in one of the most peaceful
occupations in South Africa should find themselves placed on
the Genocide Watchlist.Or is it perhaps that Dr Stanton is
just another paranoid White racist incapable of making a valid
assessment?

As far as the petition signed by the academics of the
University of Cape Town in the Brandon Huntley affair is
concerned it seems they may have been in such haste to prove
how politically correct they were that they may have not made
an indepth study of the crime situation in the country.After
all what else could they have been expected to do?There is
nothing more politically incorrect in South Africa than to
ever mention the unmentionable, that there could EVER be the
possibility of an element of racial hatred in the violent
interracial crime commited against the White population.One
could never admit to nor even hint at such a possibility and
remain in polite company.
An article by James Myburgh in Potitics Web mentions a number
of surveys that tend to show that Whites are
disproportionately affected by certain violent crimes commited
by Black criminals.(see below)

http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicsweb/view/poilticsweb/en/page71619?
oid=143475&sn=Detail

It would seem strange that with every aspect of life in the
country being tinged by race that criminal activity is in some
way exempt,that violent interracial crime suffered by Whites
is somehow entirely neutral, colourblind, with no racial
overtones. This is truly absurd and everyone knows it,
including and especially the academics of Cape Town.

Regarding the question of affirmative action it may be true
that there are young White males who manage to find employment
in certain jobs but it is also true that many of them battle
to do so and that this is largely and entirely the result of
them being White. Can you really honestly state that no White
person's application for employment has ever been rejected
simply because he or she is white and that they are all just
stories of self pity? Some perhaps but not all. The mere fact
that there is an affirmative action policy means this has to
happen and quite often, and even more so in the public sector
and parastatals.I work for a parastatal in Durban where the
average age of the White employees is over fifty.There are no
Whites of school leaving age , certainly no young White males
to be seen or even White females for that matter. As the White
employees reach retirement age they are replaced by Blacks and
so White workers are just phased out of the public service. In
the unlikely event of a young white male ever securing a job
his chances of any promotion would be virtually nonexistent as
Blacks are always given first preference as promotion for
Whites is frozen.(You seem to have great faith in the
so-called "integrity and honesty" of the ANC in that
they would always carry out their affirmative action policies
in a fair manner.This is obviously not the case.After all why
should they and who is going to make sure that they
do.Certainly no opposition politician standing up for
Whites.)It is only obvious that in order to transform the
workforce in the economy to reflect the demographics of the
different population groups in keeping with ANC ideology, it
is inevitable that a large portion of the White workforce
would have to be replaced by Blacks in order to meet the
targets within the government's timeframe.This could only be
obviated if the economy grew so fast and jobs created at such
a rapid rate that Blacks would be absorbed into the workforce
in sufficient numbers that the demographic targets could be
reached without the actual replacement of white workers.White
unemployment may not be as high as the other population groups
but it should be remembered that nearly a quarter of the White
population (mostly young and of working age)has left the
country over the last fifteen years.Had they not emigrated
would the unemployment rate amongst the White population have
been at the level that it is in view of affirmative action,
the government's transformation targets and timeframes as well
as pressures on the government from its Black constituency for
ever faster transformation.(Can you just imagine Jimmy Manyi's
reaction if all those White managers that have emigrated were
still being apointed to positions in companies in South
Africa?)

It seems strange that so much fuss has been made over the
Huntley affair as apparently six hundred other White South
Africans have been granted asylum in other countries since
1994.There is a case currently before a court in Ireland where
a twenty two year old White South African woman is requesting
asylum claiming that she would be in danger if forced to
return to South Africa and would face what she calls
"criminal racial discrimination".Ireland has
apparently already granted asylum to forty six other White
South Africans since 1994.Why has there been no fuss about all
these other cases? Are they all genuine?Are all the cases of
the thousands of Black African refugees entering Europe each
year all genuine? Are none of them perhaps just economic
refugees seeking a better life and how well is each case
checked?

Brandon Huntley commited the greatest sin.He was politically
incorrect. He mentioned the unmentionable.He spoke about a
certain aspect of South African reality that is not meant to
be spoken about and that has never been raised in public
before.A reality that everyone knows exits but doesnt want to
know. The reality of racial resentment as an important
ingredient in much of, if not most of the interracial violent
crime commited against White South Africans, and he being a
victim of it. Hence the hysterical degree of hatred directed
against him.

There may well be many good things happening in South Africa
at the same time as the bad and there is much interracial
harmony.However it shouldnt be forgotten that there is also a
very dark side,a vast potential for things to go wrong and
very wrong and all those elements are present all the time in
varying degrees.Things can change and turn ugly overnight.This
has often occurred all over Africa so many times and the fact
that the ANC is older than ZANU PF for example, or that it has
a history of non-racialism is really irrelevant and offers no
guarantees in the long term. Things can and do change all the
time.After all why does the ANC allow many of their
politicians to engage in anti- White rhetoric or hate speech
and sometimes also hate speech directed at other minirities as
well and never reprimand them, let alone expel them from the
party.Its obviously because so many of them harbour similar
sentiments.

It should be remembered that the White population is now less
than ten percent of the total and their numbers are falling
all the time.In times of threat they are incapable of
defending themselves,the first time in four hundred years that
they have found themselves in such a position.The reality is
that we live on a continent that has proven itself to be very
volatile, brutal and unstable and very unpredictable and South
Africa remains an extremely violent country where violent
crime is not only far more brutal than elsewhere in the world
but also far more enormous in terms of scale.And this is
certainly not going to end soon,most probably never.So living
here means living with it for the rest of your life. To be
driven by idealism is a good thing but to be guided by wishful
thinking,or to live in a state of denial of these realities is
certainly not wise. Who knows but it may well be the case that
those "racially paranoid" people who left the
country or are leaving, and for whom you have such
contempt,will in thirty years time look back and be very
grateful that they did and that their assessment of the
country at the time of leaving would in fact have proven to
have been correct and that your assessments may actually have
been proven to have been wrong.So,therefore I wouldnt be so
sure of my opinions if I were you and be in a little haste in
condemning others.The "paranoid racists" may just
turn out to be right and you wrong.Have you ever considered
that possibility?
 
And no, this is not a case of paranoia. This is a case of
simple common sense, taking into account the realities that
exist in South Africa and which also exist to a very large
extent throughout the continent.