Reply #38: Here you go, proof that what you said is hogwash! [View All]

[Devils Advocate NZ]

This is what you said:

The Dems who negotiated with Bush PREVENTED him from getting the blank check he wanted. He was forced to include the UN and present evidence before them, allow inspectors first, and forbidden to include Iran and Syria in his battle plans.

The bolded section is pure hogwash, and here is the proof, the resolution!:

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) AUTHORIZATION- The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to--

(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and

(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.

(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION- In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon thereafter as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that--

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and

(2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorist and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations, or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

(c) War Powers Resolution Requirements-

(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.

(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS- Nothing in this joint resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

The bold sections above show that Bush was specifically authorised to invade Iraq as long as he determined that diplomacy or other peaceful means were not enough to protect the security of the US or ensure the enforcement of all UN resolutions, and as long as the War on Terror was not affected.

No mention of having to "include the UN and present evidence before them" or "allow inspectors first".

The only thing you got right was that the resolution restricted him to invading Iraq only, which realistically speaking was all he really wanted anyway, after all there is not much oil in Syria or Iran.

So perhaps YOU should educate yourself to the truth. I wouldn't be surprised if you had never even read the resolution before. In fact if you had, that would mean your post was a lie, and I don't think you're a liar, you're just misinformed.