Reply #6: moreover, the more bits and pieces that keep getting "out there" [View All]

[salin]

the more a lasting impression in the public psyche that it happened (the gaming of intell) - THAT is what we should be shooting for.

The most recent Bolton story, for example... another item indicating that gaming was going on (he got rid of the top chem weapons inspector because they were pushing for inspections in iraq... and prior to the ousting - bolton bullies and threatens Bustani - to get Bustani to "not mention" some findings of US weapons inspections in Iraq.

Earlier there was the Yellow Cake issue - bushies were warned - but wanted to use it anyway (and did). Followed by the Tawdry L'affaire Plame.

Earlier than that - and periodically floating back up - was the fact that scientists in the USDOEnergy loudly decried the claims of the uses of the infamous aluminum tube...

The more that keeps coming out there... and keeps reconfirming the impression of tampering to manipulate the public (and the UN) - the increasing number of members of the public in denial (that is - still trying to cling to the belief that people in our govt couldn't be that "evil" as to be so callous towards US servicepeople and the Iraqis) who begin to shake off the daze.

I don't know what the tipping point will be, or if we will reach it. I doubt it will be a single peice of "slam dunk" evidence that will turn the tide... No, I think it will be a slow and growing (already occuring) shift in public perception - that if grows to a groundswell will be damning not just for this administration - but will deliver a post watergate type election sweep against the GOP and will begin to change our society for good, and for bad. For good - many neocon tenets (starting with foreign policy but moving to economic poicy and other areas) finally dropped like hot potatoes. For bad - a massive "depression" of the public when faith (in govt, and for some in their religious leaders) is shaken to the core. We haven't talked much about the latter - but I would guess this would have a profound effect on our society.