Reply #40: I have my doubts [View All]

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At best, the other Dems support some form of "civil union" at the state level-- NOT at the Federal level. In other words, it's highly doubtful the law would even change at the federal level if we elect a "civil unions" candidate.

It all reminds me too much of Clinton's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" fiasco which led to more gays getting kicked out of the military than before.

And, I hate to say it, but Dean is a triangulator in the Clinton mold-- he's even said as much himself. I have no doubt he'd be only too eager to "accomodate" the right wingnuts who'd tear him apart on this issue.

Also, if we as Democrats and liberals "settle" for civil unions, it's highly unlikely we would get true marriage rights for everyone in our lifetime. I can just see the rightwing meme: "what more do you want? We GAVE you civil unions, didn't we? Now leave us alone!".

This is PRECISELY the reason why we need to FIGHT for as much as we want RIGHT AT THE START. If we start in a compromised position it may very well get adopted, but kiss any chance of real change goodby in our lifetimes.