Reply #24: Um, there are zero anti-nukes who don't whine when confronted with NUMBERS. [View All]

[NNadir]

Over the last decade or so of the "renewables will save us" fantasy here, every single anti-nuke cries and cries and cries and cries when presented with the actual wind and solar numbers.

There are ZERO anti-nukes, ZERO, who are NOT apologists for the dangerous fossil fuel industry, every single one the famous examples of them of them, from Amory Lovins to Gerhardt Schroeder, to Joschka Fisher is paid by dangerous fossil fuel companies.

To wit:

http://www.rmi.org/rmi/Amory+B.+Lovins">Famous Anti-nuke Amory Lovins describes his revenue sources:

Mr. Lovins’s other clients have included Accenture, Allstate, AMD, Anglo American, Anheuser-Busch, Bank of America, Baxter, Borg-Warner, BP, HP Bulmer, Carrier, Chevron, Ciba-Geigy, CLSA, ConocoPhillips, Corning, Dow, Equitable, GM, HP, Invensys, Lockheed Martin, Mitsubishi, Monsanto, Motorola, Norsk Hydro, Petrobras, Prudential, Rio Tinto, Royal Dutch/Shell, Shearson Lehman Amex, STMicroelectronics, Sun Oil, Suncor, Texas Instruments, UBS, Unilever, Westinghouse, Xerox, major developers, and over 100 energy utilities. His public-sector clients have included the OECD, the UN, and RFF; the Australian, Canadian, Dutch, German, and Italian governments; 13 states; Congress, and the U.S. Energy and Defense Departments.

Again, Denmark is a dangerous fossil fuel hellhole and the Vestas "vision" is Vestas Oil, Wind and Gas, which it clearly states.

2005 - Ditlev Engel becomes President and CEO of the company. Less than a month after taking up his new position, he published his strategy for Vestas for 2005-2008: The Will to Win. This includes, among other things, a new vision for Vestas. This vision is Wind, Oil and Gas, stating that wind power is to be a source of energy on par with oil and gas.

http://www.vestas.com/en/about-vestas/profile/vestas-brief-history.aspx

Apparently Vestas consists of people who couldn't care less about banning oil and gas, even though every cognizant person on the planet - that leaves out 100% of anti-nukes - knows that oil and gas are not sustainable. In fact, however, every person who can understand simple math - fifth grade level or higher - knows that without oil and gas, the wind industry would collapse in 35 seconds or less.

To make it clear, since the number of anti-nukes who can read is zero, Vestas makes it clear - as does the Danish policy of drilling and drilling and drilling in the North Sea - that it not about banning oil or gas, but participating in it.

Have a nice BP greenwashing evening, and do let us know how many tens of billions of tons more dangerous fossil fuel waste you are willing to obliviously ignore before the high priced failed solar rich folks subsidy actually produces just one of the exajoules of hundred exajoules of energy your country consumes every year results in a microsecond of your silly and awful and willfully oblivious attention.