Reply #76: oh really [View All]

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Quote: An armed society is a polite society End Quote

So Iraq is a polite society? Afghanastan is a polite society? The mid-East is a polite society? By your reckonig, the ghetto would be a polite society. It is easier to find a gun in the slums than it is to find a fresh tomato.

Lets take your brilliant idea and give all school children loaded guns to carry in their lunch pail. It will make the classroom more polite. Right?

Now you are using yet more false logic. You cannot compare the swiss with the united states. They have an entirely different system of social wellfare programs that address things like poverty, health, unemployment, and housing that we do not have here. Now, if you force the swiss to live under our economic conditoins, then I would suspect that their violent crime rate would begin to resemble ours. But when you mix guns with desperation, fear, poverty, no hope or social welfare, then you tend to have these little problems called gun murder.

Yes, assault can result in rape, theft, or being beaten to a bloody pulp. If you shoot someone before they actually take the crime to that level, then would they really have done it if they were not dead? At this point you must substitute "i thought he was going to rape me" with "he acually did rape me" which are slightly two different things.

Now, the statistical point is this, and it is a bit of a trick I must admit. If you are assaulted, then you have one crime, one victim, and one defendant. Now add a gunshot from the victim or a third party. Voiloa' you now have another incident of violence and a different victim along with a different defendant. This represents a statistical increase