Reply #40: so as i understand it.. [View All]

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and its not the first time i've heard this:

in Israel one feels there is a chance that things could be done better...because israel is a western democratic country and because it does react to public pressure, as long as it doesnt hurt its own security needs, its ok to "dump" on israel.

it is true that neither dfur, china, russia, syrian, iran, saudi arabia, the Palestinians, cuba, where human rights really are abused, where real torture exists will really react to any "public pressure"...so the argument goes, why bother waisting time/resources with them when we might get some real results out of israel.

ok now i shall explain why that way of thinking is a dangerous: GAZA. The Palestinians in gaza have no culture of human rights, etc....at least not in the way that reflects upon their own society. They've played the "left" brilliantly while using the "human rights" as a way to pressure israel, but they themselves, as a society have not accepted it...and they've never received any pressure from the intl groups to change their behavior and culture. (ISM as i understand were very careful about "not making any waves"..i.e explain and teach about civil rights)

The results speak for themselves.....they've been "excused" from any pressures and the results were/are obvious. Perhaps if all those UN groups/human rights organizations also taught civil rights and human rights while they were aiding the Palestinians, gaza would look different today. (and the hamas wouldnt have shot up the nonviolent protest last week).

Thats why is a false argument to say: why bother with those other countries..it wont affect anything anyway.