Reply #93: i have a very different take on what democracy is..... [View All]

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and what i expect out of it.....whereas i suspected that the law existed (though i never checked, thanks for the research), i just enjoyed going back and forth with ken, wondering how far he will take it. Long discussions, bring out more information about us, far better than the two bit back and forth of 5-10 posts. I personally especially found it interesting when he told me that i should consider my neighbor, the general, my enemy and that he cares little for my life, nor my kids or even his own.....its those bits and pieces of information that i actually enjoy reading.

as far the govts attempt to shut down NGO's.....they didn't have a snowballs chance in hell. This place thrives on protesting, on funding to different groups, etc... However i do very much expect all govts to try their best to get their agenda past, and i expect there will be attempts on either side of fence to stop what they dont like. Thats important, to have a society, to have a govt that does react to change, is not afraid of making changes, where politicians are actually forced to make a stand. Sometimes it will go my way, sometimes it wont, as long as we both abide by the rules, then i'm not worried.

I dont not want a static govt that is not challenged daily by the different groups with different values. One of the lessons of the kibbutzim was that the ones that survived, that made lives good for their members were the ones who realized that they have to be flexible, to modify their values as the generations change and modify theirs. Top down indoctrination of "trust us, we know better" was a massive failure. We still have socialist youth groups (of which my son is a member), but they too have adjusted (just for fun, i always enjoy his arguing with my wife-ex kibbutznik about living in a "commune/kibbutz)

There will be those attempts, and there are many, many that are racist, many unfair and those that get past the knesset get knocked down by the supreme court...and thats how it should be.

The NGO law, wasn't going anywhere, thats the beauty of an open press and transparency and democracy.