You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #2: It cut off.. Here's the rest: [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » September 11 Donate to DU
John Doe II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:34 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. It cut off.. Here's the rest:
66. Leaving aside the odds that an experienced busdriver gets lost in the centre of London: Why would George Paradakis stop to ask the name of the street and his way? Why doesn’t he ask CentreCom or a controller per radio? Keep in mind that the bus is tracked by an automatic transponder.


The busdriver George Paradakis:
67. According to George Paradakis he helped wounded people after the blast happened at 9:47. Then he walks west for seven miles and “and sought help only once he reached the Central Middlesex Hospital in Acton, West London, at about 10.50am.” http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1687566,00.html
How could he have managed this in this short time? Why did the police not interview him after the blast?

68. Is it true that busdriver George Paradakis was “taken into hiding by police”?
http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_politics_100019_12/07/2005_58512
If so: Why?


A shooting on 7/7?
69. A Reuter’s journalist believed to have witnessed that police shot somebody on 7/7.
“A New Zealander working for Reuters in London says two colleagues witnessed the (b]unconfirmed shooting by police of two apparent suicide bombers outside the HSBC tower at Canary Wharf in London.
The New Zealander, who did not want to be named, said the killing of the two men wearing bombs happened at 10.30am on Thursday (London time).
Following the shooting, the 8000 workers in the 44-storey tower were told to stay away from windows and remain in the building for at least six hours, the New Zealand man said. (…)
Canadian Brendan Spinks, who works on the 18th floor of the tower, said he saw a "massive rush of policemen" outside the building after London was rocked by the bombings.”

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10334992
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050707.wcanar0707/BNStory
Is this story correct?
If it isn’t what might he have witnessed?


Bombing drill on 7/7:
70. On 7/7 it is undisputed that Vizor Consultants held a bombing drill in London Underground. Peter Power, Managing Director of Vizor Consultants revealed himself on 7/7 on BBC. The following quote is from a later interview:
“POWER: At half past nine this morning (7/7/05) we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.
HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?
POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on. »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/mainframe.shtml?http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/fivelive_aod.shtml?fivelive/drive_thu
See also: http://www.cbc.ca/MRL/clips/rm-lo/charles_disasters050711.rm
What are the odds of this coincidence? Was the possibility of inside information that might have gotten into the hands of the alleged bombers investigated?
What is the result? What’s the name of the company for which the exercise was conducted?

71. Was there any reason that the same day a terror drill of New York Underground was taking place or is this pure coincidence?

72. Why did Vizor Consultants do the terror exercise when the exercise “Atlantic Blue” held in April 2005 had basically the very same scenario?
“A massive anti-terror exercise carried out last April to find out how safe London's transport systems were from attack raised concern over the vulnerability of passengers, The Observer can reveal.
Washington sources have revealed that the biggest transatlantic counter-terrorism exercise since 9/11 - which included 'bombs' being placed on buses and explosives left on the London underground - raised fears over the vulnerability of 'soft targets' in the capital. »

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1525247,00.html
The Guardian reported: “The anti-terror drill, codenamed Exercise Atlantic Blue, involved 10,000 personnel in the UK and 2,500 in the UK. It was billed as the biggest test of the anti-terror defences of both the UK and the US and was designed to improve security. The exercise featured simulated explosive, biological and chemical attacks and, in the case of London, concentrated on testing security weaknesses in the transport system.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1525398,00.html
(Moreover it should be noted that “Atlantic Blue” “coincided with a major international summit.” http://news.scotsman.com/politics.cfm?id=756822005 Which has strange parallels to 7/7 with the G8 summit just taking place.)
What have been the improvements after “Atlantic Blue”?


Giuliani and Netanyahu:
73. Coincidentally Former Mayor of New York, Rudolph Giuliani was on 7/6 in Yorkshire, where the police did its first investigations, then he was in London on 7/7:
« Former Mayor of New York, Rudolph Giuliani, was only yards away from the first explosion”
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1525446,00.html
What was the reason for Giuliani’s stay in London on 7/7 ? (911 research Greg Nixon phoned Giuliani’s press secretary but only received the answer: “business”).
Did he in any way participate in Vizor’s terror drill?

74. Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stayed on 7/7 in the same hotel as Giuliani. There were conflicting reports if Netanyahu was warned before the attacks or not. The “Jerusalem Post” writes:
“There were reports on Israel Radio that Scotland Yard had received early warnings of an imminent terrorist attack, and had shared details of these warnings with the Israeli Embassy in London.
However, staff at the Israeli Embassy have flatly denied the claim.”

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1120702711004
Did Scotland Yard receive early warnings?
Was Netanyahu warned?
If yes, when was this the case?


The financial marked before 7/7:
75. The English Pound lost about 6% against the US-Dollar the days before 7/7. Is there the possibility of insider trading? If yes, was it investigated and what was the result?

76. Two days before the London subway bombings, Fed-Master Alan Greenspan flushed nearly $40 billion in liquidity into financial markets. This was a very surprising and so far unexplained step. Was there any connection between his decision and 7/7?


Warnings:
77. It is claimed that the UK received some warnings prior to 7/7:
“Spanish security sources are said to have warned four months ago that Nasar had zeroed in on Britain as a likely target, The Sunday Times reported.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/326743p-279325c.html
“Saudi Arabia officially warned Britain of an imminent terrorist attack on London just weeks ahead of the 7 July bombings after calls from one of al-Qaeda's most wanted operatives were traced to an active cell in the United Kingdom.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1544264,00.html
“A confidential report by France's intelligence service that was finalised days before the July 7 London bombings pointed to the threat of an Al-Qaeda attack on Britain, the French daily Le Figaro said.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050808/wl_afp/britainattacksfrance_050808095437&printer=1;_ylt=As.JPzuo38DiigCmrw1qdo6ROrgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MXN1bHE0BHNlYwN0bWE-
Is this correct? And who was “one of al-Qaeda's most wanted operatives”?
If it was Aswat then why wasn’t he considered being the mastermind of 7/7 right away?


Last but not least:
Why does Premier Tony Blair rule out a bomb inquiry? http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,15889534%255E1702,00.html

Is not the security of British people, the need to know what could have been done better next time to prevent the bomb explosions, enough to prove the necessity of an
investigation?


Credits:
Special Thanks to Team 8+ and members of the Team8+ Forum!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » September 11 Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC