Reply #19: "Thin skin" works both ways [View All]

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I have seen your posts at other places, but I will only deal with what you have posted here. I will go point by point with what you posted.

I don't blame gays for the defeat, but I do see a lot here who jumped ship in a hurry and were some of the first to start yelling fire in a crowded fire.

I don't understand this analogy, so no comment on my part.

No sooner was it becoming apparent that the election was getting away then there were posts here about how 4 more years were going to be the death & doom of the gays. It wasn't just one post, it was many...and at the time it was not what people like me were interested in reading.

That is fine you didn't want to read that, but this administration is very dangerous to gays. A SC appointment could the Lawrence v. Texas decision overturned, which would re-criminalize consensual gay sex. It would also open the door to other forms of discrimination.

I held my powder, but others didn't and soon it became anyone who said anything that offended gay members here were "homophobes"...and the knives and name-calling commenced. Again, not what people like me were looking to read.

I didn't see that so, I can't really comment on it.

I'll say there have been a number of very inclusive gay members who like to either dismiss any open dialog about gay issues that ALL of us need to get in the open or excluse one who isn't gay or has been labeled as such.

That is a shame and it just goes to show you that not ALL gay people are alike.

Now on to your question. Does homosexual sex make this heterosexual uneasy? Damn straight (no pun intended...ok, maybe a small one) it does. Not my thing and it's not something I will ever be interested in. But that doesn't make me grade or brand others who believe that way. As long as you keep your private life private, I couldn't care whose having sex with whom. Just as much as I would assume you would offer me the same courtesy. Does that make me a bigot?

Does it make you a bigot to want people to keep private lives private? No, if you mean ALL people. Would I be able to tell you that I was planning a party for my partner? Could I tell you that I was happy he got a promotion? If that bothers you, yes, you are a bigot! I am not asking you or anyone else to watch me fuck! I don't want to watch you! If all you are concerned about is the sex part, then you are not a bigot...I will never force you to watch gay porn!

Let me attempt to play devil's advocate here and preface this with some background. I've worked with closest and openly gay people for virtually my entire life...and it really makes no difference to me as much as a black person's color or a Catholic's rosary. In most cases the people I worked with tried double hard to "mainstream" or to work within the systems and play by the same crooked rules we all do.

So have I.

Somewhere in the 90's I began to notice a change. I was working with a group attempting to set up a gay radio network...including Amy Goodman. Initially it was a pleasure working with these people as they were really hard-working professionals who wanted to communicate their viewpoint and to their community. This changed into a power/ego game...as TVs didn't get along with the Lesbians who had problems with "the boys" and so on. I was "The Breeder"...and over time the fighting destroyed not only the radio show but a lot of friendships as well. Truth is I felt highly discriminated in that situation.

Truth is, you were discriminated against. Gays can be bigots, too! There is much "in-fighting" in the GLBT community, but I am not sure what your point was here.

I noticed a change in other gay friends as well...especially in the past 4 years...a paranoia that, while is of concern, does hurt the overall attempts of the Democratic party since the Repugnicans use this as a wedge issue and count on over-reaction from gays to further divide the country (and Democrats) and unite their herd.

You should determine the Democratic platform, Democrats or Rethugs? If you believe in equality, then you should stand by that principle, popular or not!

I'm firmly in favor of equal right for all PEOPLE. Not for groups, but for PEOPLE. Right now this place represents groups that are divided and polarizing...not attempting to dialogue like you are.

If you are for equal rights for ALL, then stand up for up! No matter how unpopular it may be!

If that makes me a homophobe, so be it.

This makes me sad! :( You would rather be labeled a homophobe rather than make a stand for equal rights.

I hope that you see this post for what it is..education. I don't mean to condescend to you, simply, state my position.

Brightest Blessings!