Reply #5: Yeah, I do agree with all you say, oscar11. Carl Sagan laid it out in [View All]

[Peace Patriot]

his book "The Cold and the Dark." Even a limited nuclear exchange will be curtains for all life on earth. It is madness!

To answer the poster's question, though: What right do we have? Absolutely none.

But...the Bush Cartel has now invaded TWO countries that it had no right to invade, Iraq on the lying pretext that they had WMDs, and Afghanistan, which has no WMDs, but which appeared to be harboring an accused criminal. When the recognized, ruling government of Afghanistan asked for proof against this criminal, the US refused, invaded them, slaughtered thousands of their citizens, topped their government, installed a US-backed government, sent a number of its citizens off to indefinite detention and torture in Guantanamo Bay, and continues to occupy the country. And has yet to find the criminal they say they were after.

Maybe justified, maybe not. (I have yet to hear of any proof against Osama bin Laden--and the Bush Cartel itself is still a suspect, in my mind). But certainly illegal and murderous.

The Bush Cartel is a rogue power and it will do what it wants to, with our nuclear arsenal and our military. They may not even bother with pretexts any more--or any international discussion (let alone discussion in the relevant, legal bodies, the UN and the US Congress). But they may come up with a manufactured Gulf of Tonkin type of lying B.S. The newsturds they are leaving around recently do point to some such.

Also, they have blinded the CIA to worldwide illicit movement of WMDs--by outing Valerie Plame and her front company, Brewster Jennings, which had covert eyes and ears around the world, specifically to track WMDs. So, they can do anything they want to--and, I imagine, are doing anything they want to, at great profit to Dick Cheney and others.

This is an extremely dangerous situation. We can only hope that the "good CIA" (as opposed to the Bush Cartel-purged CIA) is looking out for us, and I think they are, and that the Europeans will not permit any nuking on the Mediterranean so close to their shores. Those countries are a lot closer to the situation, and in much more immediate danger from devilish Bush Cartel actions. Also, Iraq is a frigging disaster. U.S. forces are extremely over-extended. And Iran has the ability to defend itself with considerable armed force (unlike Iraq, which was a basket case by March '03 when they invaded it). I don't see how they CAN invade Iran. Where would they get the troops to fight such a war? We have 3-tour Nat'l Guard RESERVE is Iraq now.

A limited missile strike by the Bush Cartel or Israel against any possible Iranian nuke weapons may be the best we can hope for. What's really going on here is, how to keep the military contractors fat with money--so that may work in favor of survival of the planet and the human race.

Ah, me.