Reply #46: I always wonder what the Utopian crowd does for a living. I mean, [View All]

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what is it that makes them think that a flood of cheap immigrant labor (legal and otherwise) doesn't diminish the wages of those without a college degree, who have always worked in the trades such as meat packing and processing, construction, roofing, landscaping, etc.? Those wages used to support a family. Until the flood of illegals. And anyone who says differently is just fooling themselves. And what is the knee jerk reaction of these people? They start calling everyone who disagrees a racist or a xenophobe.

To head off the name calling crowd I want to say that I am fully supportive of anyone who is here legally. They are entitled to all the protections and privleges that we all have. I am NOT in favor of the slimey fudge factor that corporate American wants to pass, increasing the H1-B visa quota. That is just another corporate scheme to bring in cheap labor at the expense of the American people. That scam brings in foreign labor professionals to the U.S. temporarily (6 years) to work in a specialty occupation such as in the IT area. But you know, I've never heard anyone here called a racist or a xenophone who's posted a thread against this corporate screwing of the American worker. In fact, I've never seen anything by understanding and sympathy for those posters. I wonder what the difference is, what makes it perfectly acceptable for certain people in certain occupations be be upset about the loss of jobs in their areas of employment, but not those that you might call manual laborers. Is it the college degree that makes some people 'special'?

The argument I see most is 'blame corporate America, blame big business'. Corporate American does deserve to be prosecuted for breaking the laws of this country. Yes, they feed off these people and thier ILLEGAL status. But what amazes me is that apparently the 'let everybody in we can handle it' crowd refuses to acknowlege that the illegals KNOW THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW when they enter this country illegally. They aren't innocent bystanders just caught up in circumstances beyond their control. They know what they are doing is illegal and they do it anyway. When most people are caught breaking the law, they understand that there are going to be repercussions to their acts. The illegals not only think that there shouldn't be any repercussions but that they should be rewarded. Now they are demanding citizenship, they demand better wages, and they demand healthcare, all by virtue of the fact that they successfully snuck into the country. That is just not going to happen. The majority of the people in this country are against illegal immigration. And that is not just the republicans, that's the independents, the democrats, all parties and political affiliations.

The people who were shown demonstrating here in the United States need to go back to their native country where they could and should be fighting for the their rights, and the rights of their fellow countrymen/women. Take to the streets there, wave their flags, make their demands.

For all of you people that are accusing people of being racists or xenophobe I ask you, why are you so damn against the American worker? A couple of you are the same ones who constantly freak when anyone says something that you feel is bad about a democrat in office or says something you feel slanders the democratic party (generally the DLC). You yelp about 'sticking together and standing up for our own'. Apparently that only goes as far as supporting the democratic party and your way of thinking. But when it comes to the American worker, that's a different story. And yeah, we all come from immigrants. Hell, the American Indian came across the Bering Straight to settle in this country, or so theory goes. But the economy is stretched to the max. People are losing their homes, their cars, their livlihoods. The great American Dream is fast fading away. There's less and less to go around. Why do you feel that you should support someone who was not born here over your fellow American?