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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-12-06 03:48 PM
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44. I don't agree. Please see my reply above. It's all one to me. People
WILL contribute money where they think it will gain them political advantage--as long as they able to. Whether it's the GOP or Bechtel or MoveOn.com. And the SCALE of Dem/Repub money filth (fatcat money, corporate money) is far beyond anything the Greens could ever dream of. And the scale of the IMPACTS of that money coming into Dem/Repub coffers is almost beyond calculating--and includes at least half of our political officials often siding with Bushites, corporations and the super-rich, and the other half (most of them) siding wih the dark lords SOME of the time. That's one powerful "Fort Knox" of political money! Green coffers are nothing by comparison.

I think we should get off this matter, and address the issues. What are the concerns of Green Party voters? Why are most of them disaffected Dem voters? Why are we failing to RETAIN them as voters? I've watched the development of a local Green Party, and even went to a meeting, and they have very LEGITIMATE gripes with the Democrats. Why are we not addressing those legitimate gripes, instead of trying to tear Greens down? I think tearing them down is a very short-sighted strategy--ESPECIALLY since these are people with whom we--the left, and rank and file Dems--have a lot of common ground.

I think that the corporate news monopolies have succeeded in one respect--and only one respect: They have convinced US--the middle, the real mainstream of the country--that we are far left. We fear the label "leftist radical" because we have unconsciously absorbed their message that the rightwing is the middle. But, if you review all the corporate and independent issue and opinion polls over the last several years, you find that just the opposite is true. The rightwing is still the minority it always has been. And most Americans are actually progressives. How has this great progressive American majority been disempowered? --is the question we should be asking. Or, better yet, how has it been DISENFRANCHISED?

The fascists have TILTED the IMAGE of who Americans are far to the right. But this is just imaging and illusion--a product of the corporate monopoly of the news (run basically by 5 fatcat, rightwing, billionaire CEOs). I think we would be VERY SURPRISED by how Americans would react to some of the Green's "radical left" policies.

I'm for coalitions of the people WHO CARE--the people who represent the interests of the majority and the common good of all--whatever they call themselves. And if OUR PARTY no longer represents those things, or is so weak in leadership skills and vision that it represents them ineffectively--then we had better ask ourselves and OUR leaders about that, not the Greens. And it does no good sniping at the Greens, if WE are failing to represent the majority and the common good.
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