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Fri Feb-29-08 03:54 PM
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46. Conversely, Obama does better in Virginia than Kerry OR McCain |
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Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 04:03 PM by Leopolds Ghost
Because he wins over disaffected military types (who are pissed at McCain for supporting Bush's position on the war) Southern blacks, urban college techie crowd in Northern Virginia.
He won't win Hampton Roads against naval hero McCain but he WILL win huge PARTS of Hampton Roads (the shipbuilding communities are heavily African American). He could offset McCain's advantage with Webb, Clark or Kaine (a moderate, "consistent ethic of life" Catholic who is opposed to abortion and the death penalty but not opposed to Roe v. Wade -- Kaine is probably to the left of Reid, for instance, and many people including former black governor Doug Wilder considered him too liberal for Virginia before he got elected governor, mainly because he's anti-death penalty.)
Obama is already doing better in Virginia than McCain is in Pennsylvania! Virginia with its huge naval population and working class whites would be McCain's home turf, but the evangelicals in southern Virginia (Falwell types) hate McCain and will only vote against Obama because they're racists. The Appalachian folks in Southwest Virginia are like the ones in Pennsylvania, except unlike the mountain men to the north, they are yellow dog democrats and unionists who are big for Warner who is on the ticket. (West Virginia, East Kentucky and the Virginia panhandle are a lot more Democratic and unionized than other parts of Appalachia, but they coexist with some pretty racist Southern Baptist parts, such as the areas around Lynchburg and Bristol).
Mudcat Saunders will probably lead a unified GOTV campaign down there. And they aren't quite as racist in coal country as they are in other parts of Appalachia, but they are pretty xenophobic of foriegners so the whole Hussein Obama thing could be a concern in the small "blue counties" of Appalachia.
and many of the navy brats in Hampton Roads who are expected to come home to McCain like they did against Kerry are socially moderate, African American, and will vote for whoever ends the war which is why Kerry did better than expected in Hampton Roads, an area traditionally associated with Reagan and Pat Robertson (no one down there listens to Pat Robertson anymore, and he naturally hates McCain anyway.) So McCain will be forced to rely on the fact that he was a Naval war hero, which did not help Kerry.
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