Quoting from the OP
1) We all hate mandates. That is not however an excuse not to put in a little effort to understand why mandates have become an inherent part of health care reform
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If you do not want mandates then you must allow the insurers (whether it is a public plan or a private plan) to charge different fees to different risk groups.
There is no aspersions to people who, understanding the principles involved prefer the current system to change to a system that is clearly going to bring some pain. This solution, as imperfect as it is, will also provide tremendous relief to people with chronic health conditions that cannot get care. They will be accepted without discrimination and will not pay a different fee.
In the thread you can read thoughtful discussions by Kim and Hunter, Prism, Boppers and Hello Kitty that all engage in a thoughtful discussion of issues.
But there is only one responder on this thread who has taken an intelligent discussion and launched a personal attack.
That is you. Somebody disagrees with you then they are a "cheerleader" and "haven't read the post".
You stand alone.
Everyone who reads the thread knows that I didn't compare people who don't like the mandate to freepers (I already admitted that I didn't like it,that it is a bitter medicine).
No those that act like Freepers are those that because they are ignorant of the basic workings of actuarial calculation (the key point that has not been seriously challenged) stoop so low that they accuse the President of accepting mandates for the prospect of future campaign contributions, or has taken direct bribes, or other criminal activity.
How small is the mind and how dark is the soul that could be so perversely motivated that they would take a such an attack against President Obama. It is the kind of mind that we see on Fox, it is the cartoon image known as Glenn Beck, it is the spirit of Freepers.
Rather than understand and have an intelligent conversation on a complex problem, one in which Paul Krugman warned candidate Obama about (see upthread) some would seek to go to the bottom rung of dignity and insult the President who has served so far with intelligence, humility and self restraint.
So please go on with your uninformed belligerent attacks on President Obama. They are not well grounded in fact, almost always devoid of logic, lack any sense of proportion, have no context and reveal an obsessive compulsion to try and tear down someone who is clearly, clearly, clearly way above your self appointed station. You dwell in the basement.
Do me this favor. Every time you engage in an attack on the President, mention me. For I stand with him.
Even when I disagree with him I have found his epistemology and rationale have always been instructive. So feel free on your next attack on the President to include the phrase "and some here at DU" so that you continue to narrowly stay within the rules. Let everyone understand that you are attacking me.
Your disparaging words to me I wear as a badge of honor.