Reply #126: You conveniently ignored half of what Stenger was saying to fit your critique. [View All]

[BurtWorm]

"The laws of physics themselves," he says, "are shown to correspond to what one would expect if the universe appeared from nothing." Stenger is proposing to show quite the opposite of what you claim he implies--not that the laws transcend "existence" but, rather, that they *result from it.* Or in your friend Hart's terms, the laws are contingent upon the universe's existence. They can't exist without the universe, according to the evidence. Hart can sit on his fat ass and try to pick Stenger's assertions apart, but Stenger has material evidence and Hart has only logic and metaphysical speculation. (What do you have, by the way?)