Reply #58: Just read through all your posts. I'll explain why you're wrong and why [View All]

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

your remarks are bigoted.

First why you are wrong.

If you are that OLD of a mouse then you seem to have a shoddy remembrance of MLK, the Civil Rights movement and the VIOLENCE inherent in that movement despite Dr. King's preaching of peaceful revolution. Yo seem to have forgotten the bombing of the church in Alabama...or Sheriff Jim hosing the marchers in the Birmingham march with fire hoses. Why do I bring this up? Because you seem to be communicating that social change occurred in the area of black civil rights after black folks simply waited patiently for their rights.

That is not the case...there were riots, there was violence and only after America repeatedly had it's bigotry crammed down it's throat..only after the pictures repeatedly showed up in Life Magazine and on their evening news repeatedly did things change...BTW..more changed after MLK's violent death than before...so enough of your romanticizing that good things come to those that wait.

In fact, if you want us to pull a page from the civil rights movement then perhaps you are suggesting that only after we riot and enough deaths are in people's faces will things change. If that's the case, I agree with you...Matthew Sheppard did far more for the gay rights movement than damn near anyone these past couple decades...were he not left to hang like Jesus on that fence, people would not have been confronted with the ill effects of their homophobia.

Frankly, I think violence is about the only way most brainwashed Christian fundamentalists will snap out of their somnambulence.

Now as to why your posts are bigoted using this definition and word origin as a framework

big·ot ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bgt)
n.
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.


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Word History: Bigots may have more in common with God than one might think. Legend has it that Rollo, the first duke of Normandy, refused to kiss the foot of the French king Charles III, uttering the phrase bi got, his borrowing of the assumed Old English equivalent of our expression by God. Although this story is almost surely apocryphal, it is true that bigot was used by the French as a term of abuse for the Normans, but not in a religious sense. Later, however, the word, or very possibly a homonym, was used abusively in French for the Beguines, members of a Roman Catholic lay sisterhood. From the 15th century on Old French bigot meant “an excessively devoted or hypocritical person.” Bigot is first recorded in English in 1598 with the sense “a superstitious hypocrite.”


In the strictest sense of the word your entire post places the BLAME on the gay community for the bigotry expressed toward them. You speak with great understanding for the oppressors as though their position is logical and reasonable and speak to the gay community as though we have GREAT NERVE to demand that the over 1000 civil rights that a married couple have be afforded to us...in essence you "blame the victim" as though if we hadn't been on that corner at that time of night we would NOT have been mugged. In order to even approach us with this attitude you HAVE to express a sense of superiority toward those that ARE doing the oppressing...you speak with GREAT understanding of THEIR point of view and with great disdain for OURS...nothing subtle about it.


AND FINALLY YOUR ORIGINAL POST IS VOID OF FACTS BUT YOU PRETEND IT ISN'T

YOu claim an overwhelming majority of Americans favored civil unions...what are you basing that on...a couple polls? Anything? Yes a majority of Americans MAY have supported civil unions but as of 2004 very few states even HAD civil union laws passed. The seven couples in Massachusetts had waited for DECADES....

You claim the gay community asked people to modify their religions. The only case made by the gay community was to marriage as defined by the state nor by the church...frankly, you spent your entire post JUSITFYING using religion as a conduit for bigotry..like it or not, that's what you did.

Now there is a hate and anger in the air because the gay community just wouldn't leave that damn word alone. Just had to have the word no matter how much it meant to the religious conservatives of this country. And don't give me that " 'separate but equal' is never equal" crap.

No the hate and anger is FROM religious bigots with whom you sympathize..enough posting under the register...your comments are TOLERANT and SYMPATHETIC to the bigots...that MAKES your comments BIGOTED.


Next time you post on the subject, please review THIS..it will have you be MORE informed on the nature of the case, the issues, and the notion that SEPARATE can be equal.

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/conlaw/maglmarriage20304.html