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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 12:33 PM
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84. Is this one of those "points" that you like to refer to, when saying they're not being answered?
"you believe Stormfront propoganda on membership?" ?? That's the entirety of your response? Is this indicative of your extensive "studies"?

Firstly, it is rather surprising that you are so casually dismissing the Southern Poverty Law Center's "Active U.S. Hate Groups in 2008" list. 111 active White Supremacist groups... like they never even existed. Even if these groups had only one single member each, 111 would amount to 9 dozen, and change.

As for the "propoganda on membership", which you assert with no supporting evidence whatsoever... pulling factoids out of your ass and expecting the world to treat them as golden... Wiki would disagree: (I'll leave you to google "Stormfront (website) Wikipedia" for yourself)

In a 2001 USA Today article, journalist Tara McKelvey called Stormfront "the most visited white supremacist site on the net".<15> The number of registered users on the site rose from 5,000 in January 2002 to 52,566 in June 2005,<16> by which year it was the 338th largest Internet forum, received more than 1,500 hits each weekday and ranked in the top one percent of Internet sites in terms of use.<17><18> By June 2008, the site was attracting more than 40,000 unique users each day.<19> Operating the site from its West Palm Beach, Florida headquarters is Black's full-time job, and he is assisted by his son and 40 moderators.<6><19><20> The popularity of the site attracted attention not only from racists, but also from watchdog groups such as the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), whose efforts against the site have been hitherto ineffective.<21> The ADL describes Stormfront as having "served as a veritable supermarket of online hate, stocking its shelves with many forms of anti-Semitism and racism".<22>


40,000 unique users each day... and 40 moderators... I suppose Wiki's citation of a USA Today article by "Tara McKelvey" is yet more "Stormfront prop{a}ganda" (sorry, the misspelling was just bothering me)?

How about the Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/21/AR2008062101471.html?hpid=topnews)?

Obama has worked hard to minimize the issue of race in his presidential campaign. When asked about divisiveness and hate, he talks instead about ways in which unity between blacks and whites has inspired him. He chose to "reject and denounce" an endorsement from Nation of Islam minister Louis Farrakhan. Obama quit his church after his pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., spoke of racism and oppression in the "United States of white America."

{snip}

But on a Web site run out of a house in West Palm Beach, Fla., the other side is also fighting.

Don Black spends 16 hours each day on his laptop computer reading hundreds of derogatory Obama comments posted on Stormfront.org, a Web site with the motto "white pride world wide." Black, a former Ku Klux Klan leader, launched the site in 1995 to create a central meeting place for the white power movement. In the wake of Obama's securing enough delegates for the nomination, Stormfront, he says, has begun to fulfill his vision.

A site that drew a few thousand visitors per day in 2002 has expanded into Black's full-time job, attracting more than 40,000 unique users each day who can post on 54 different message boards, he said. Black has enlisted 40 moderators and his 19-year-old son to help run Stormfront.


So, is the Washington Post also a propaganda mill for the likes of Stormfront?

Hmmm, on the one side there's your unsupported opinion, and on the other side there is the SPL Center's Hate Group List, Wiki, the USA Today, the Simon Wiesenthal Center, the ADL, and the Washington Post...

I'm gonna have to judge you, kwassa, as the one pushing truthinesstm for your convenience.
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