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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-11 05:07 PM
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142. One last time:
'You specifically said "Tea partiers think they should get SS like they are owed it."'

Everyone who pays in is owed it technically, but there is more to it. A lot who didn't pay in are owed it as well, just in different forms. Everyone is owed the means to live.

However, the Ayn Rand loving Tea Partiers make distinctions between what they *think they are owed* and what those they consider *unworthy* are owed, which in their mind, is nothing. That's what I was pointing out.

'You do seem to forget that they paid into the system like everyone else.'

I forget nothing of the kind. By saying they are owed it, of course we know they are owed it in that term. Just like everyone else, which I already said. If you read the pamphlet by Paine, you would see my opinion, which is much deeper than these semantics here.

'Now...if they got welfare, you'd have a point.'

No, I wouldn't, and neither would you. Yet their leader and promoter of Ayn Rand, Rush Limbaugh calls SS a form of welfare, just as Greenspan does, another follower. That's the Randian game, who's *worthy,* according to sociopaths. Government is not as judgmental as these greedy, pontificating loud mouths.

People have needs. But for the luck of the draw, we are the same. We will all get old and need help if we live that long, or earlier if we are unemployed or disabled.

And children who never had a chance to pay into the system may be born disabled. Their support is welfare in every sense of the word. They are not less human because our humanity is not defined by our ability to work or being born wealthy.

The idea that only those able to fight wars or gain riches in some other way are worthy is the mentality of the third reich. They called anyone not able to go and fight 'worthless mouths' and the Randians call all who aren't useful in that way 'parasites.'

The Randians believe none of those groups deserve either SS or welfare. They believe they should die and leave more for the Supermen. Anyone romancing the rotting corpse of Ayn Rand needs to be given whatever wake up call possible, to make them question their twisted value system.

EOD.
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