Reply #105: I'm not fighting about the word. I'm fighting separate but equal. [View All]

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You're the one hung up on the word, because you're saying it has religions meaning and that's why it has to go back to the enemy. You're the one hung up on the word. You are arguing for separate but equal. I'm defending society from it. I won't have it. Any time anyone proposed anything like it, I say "No way". You're proposing it. I'm rejecting it. It's not about the word.

And don't you dare. Yes. You are making it personal with this: "If you like being "married" so much you would rank that higher than actually obtaining the rights you say you're committed to fighting for, I think you may not be as committed to obtaining them as you think you are." Don't you dare accuse me of this. Don't you dare. Again. Not about the word. With your proposal, you're saying "Let's have two groups here. Those that get married in the church and get to have marriage. The majority, I might add! And the the rest of us, who get to be civilly unioned. Separate but equal. So, again. Don't you DARE accuse ME of making the word more important. It's not about the word. It's about not segregating our society into two groups the way you want to. Because make no mistake. The religious majority that get to have their marriages will have more significance and more importance than those who are merely civil unioned. If you don't think so, then you as a Christian don't know what it's like to live as a non-Christian minority in this country. You made it personal. You bet you you did. I've been trying to tell you something in this thread, and you haven't been listening. Now I'm making it personal and I hope you listen, and I hope you make no more accusations my way. It's not about the word. It's about not being further marginalized by the majority. Any straight or GLBT who isn't religious gets to settle for Civil Unions.

It's a separate but equal category. Not acceptable. It's not about the word Marriage. It's about not being placed in a separate category. Do you understand now? Don't tell me I can go have some half baked ceremony if I want to. I shouldn't have to. Not acceptable. You're part of the majority on this one. . Listen to me as a member of the minority on this issue. It's not acceptable.

ETA that I'm not the one who's gone on and on about the history of the word, and how Christians feel about it, and that's why we should consider their feelings on the matter. When it comes to legal rights, I say none of that matters one whit. So why am *I* the one with the hang up? I'm the one that says screw it, let everyone marry! When discussing the civil rights of American citizens, who cares? It doesn't matter. If you're the one bringing it up the history of the word and people's feelings about it, and all that other stuff, it does seem as though you have some hang ups about that word of your own, because none of that stuff is relevant when it comes to civil rights. Just saying.