Reply #302: Try Listening to Them--You Might Learn Something [View All]

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This OP is so overwrought and incoherent that it is hard to know where to start, but you give some clues about how little you actually care about the issue by first claiming that "Obama has taken us further with healthcare than any other president ever" (what? further than Johnson and Medicare/Medicaid? further than FDR and Social Security, the GI Bill, the VA? further even than Clinton, who signed into law S-CHIP?)--what does that mean? Then you end with "My 2 biggest concerns are always the pre-existing conditions and high costs of coverage - to be honest they rank way higher than the public option (although PO is still very important)," showing that you do not understand the problems that people are suffering at all, or what will be necessary to bring any costs down.

Obama started this whole process by having secret meetings with insurance and pharmaceutical industry executives, and before anyone knew what was happening, had promised them no negotiations on prices, and no price controls; the health care industry lobbyist Tom Daschle is organizing the "selling" and passage of the bill for the White House. Even good Democrats in Congress, such as Sherrod Brown in the Senate and Marcy Kaptur in the House, are now using the bizarre phrase "health insurance reform," which neither ever did before--who is pressuring them?

I live in a State, Michigan, where our unemployment rate was just adjusted up, for July, to 22.8%, near-Depression levels, by the Dept. of Energy, Labor and Economic Growth, yet I recently had to read the title of a DU thread, that was like "It's Official: Obama Saves Economy from Worst Slump Since the 1930s--Wall St. Journal," something like that, for bailing out investment brokers who are still near insolvent. What the hell do some of you people even know about the unemployment rates of some parts of this country?

Some 80% of all Amercians, poll after poll, show they favor a Medicare style plan, and all the Obama "D"LC has proposed is a forced, unregulated commercial insurance buy, like auto insurance. Do you not know the difference between "stupid whiners" and people who are telling you that something is wrong?