Reply #109: Frankly, yes. [View All]

[Smarmie Doofus]

Until Iraq II, I didn't fully realize how deeply disturbed is our social order.

Clinton and Gore seemed to me... in the 90's.... a reasonable compromise --- given the nature of the barbarians on the other side. Cultural issues ... esp. GLBT... were paramount to me then. Triangulating, maneuvering and compromising seemed not just excusable but wise.

I no longer think this way and I certainly don't *feel* this way. That said, I'm still no Nader fan. And the third party idea is doomed from the outset. A challenge from the left, i.e. the mainstream of the party, from WITHIN THE PARTY is much more feasible.

Bradley tried it against Gore in 2000, but it was a weak challenge led by an unappealing candidate. Also Gore's aura was *slightly* more progressive than Clinton's was or Obama's is.