Reply #108: Your links are to meaningless Google searches. Sony & Toshiba are premium brands like Apple. [View All]

[DirkGently]

Oh dear. Customer satisfaction is meaningless? I love that element of the anti-Apple cult. "You don't really like your computer. You just think you do. Let me explain about Ghz per dollar, you poor, mindless captive of the Apple Marketing Machine."

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C'mon. People here are telling you they rely on their Apple stuff for professional applications. That's not an area with a lot of room for doe-eyed fantasy. If your work machine doesn't function well, you're not going to keep it because you like Jobs' mock turtleneck. It's laughably presumptuousness to even suggest it.

And Apple designs are copied, why? Just eye-catching? Like, the iPhone was the same as every other smartphone, but had a cooler color scheme, or something? So now every smartphone that comes out looks like an iPhone, with an interface like an iPhone, and an App Store like an iPhone, but that's just some kinda trendy nonsense? None of those ideas had any actual merit? Nothing about the iPhone worked better in any way? Talk about rabid, silly fanboys making things up to make themselves feel better. There's a lot of magical thinking going on here, but it's not coming from the Apple folks.

And your argument is based on price, and you trot out SONY AND TOSHIBA? Priced those lately? Which is it, now? Are all computers identical boxes full of components and nothing more, or does design, build quality, and the company behind it matter? You can't claim the build quality of the two PC brands which equal or exceed Apple in price, and then base your Apple hatred on how expensive they are.

Does design matter, or doesn't it?

Your "bottom line" is that you're arguing computer equipment is a box full of components *and nothing more*. That's hopelessly simplistic and just empirically wrong. Design matters. It's not everything, but it's not just looks or marketing hype. Prior smartphones didn't function like an iPhone. Other tablets were not iPads. A plastic HP with Windows and bloatware does not function like an aluminum MacBook Pro, even if the processors are identical. As you note, even among PCs, the most expensive brands DO offer something more: reliability and customer satisfaction.

I.e., BETTER DESIGN. The case is an EXAMPLE, for Christ's sake. You get in a car, and the dashboard flexes under your fingers, the gearshift is rubbery, and ten miles down the road it shuts off, and the dealer tells you it would cost more to fix it than it's worth, and you don't care, because it's just a box of components? The Honda's not worth having over the Chevette, because they both have four cylinders?

As noted, people can like or not like all kinds of different things, and it's certainly nothing strange to find Apple's pricing high. But you can also easily spend more and have an inferior experience tossing a fistful of anonymous plastic PCs in the trash, as many in this thread have explained to you.

And again, people happy with what they have don't feel the need to say the "other" kind is horrible crap. That's what people who wish they had the other thing tend to say. Go enjoy a cheap PC, or pay Apple-like bucks for a better-made Sony or Toshiba. But telling other people their well-reasoned opinions are bullshit because you have some personal need to poo-poo products you don't "get" is just pointless and bizarre.