Powell Says Iran Is Pursuing Bomb -WP

[Rose Siding]

SANTIAGO, Chile, Nov. 17 -- The United States has intelligence that Iran is working to adapt missiles to deliver a nuclear weapon, further evidence that the Islamic republic is determined to acquire a nuclear bomb, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell said Wednesday.

Separately, an Iranian opposition exile group charged in Paris that Iran is enriching uranium at a secret military facility unknown to U.N. weapons inspectors. Iran has denied seeking to build nuclear weapons.
"I have seen some information that would suggest that they have been actively working on delivery systems. . . . You don't have a weapon until you put it in something that can deliver a weapon," Powell told reporters traveling with him to Chile for an Asia-Pacific economic summit. "I'm not talking about uranium or fissile material or the warhead; I'm talking about what one does with a warhead."

Powell's comments came just three days after an agreement between Iran and three European countries -- Britain, France and Germany -- designed to limit Tehran's ability to divert its peaceful nuclear energy program for military use. The primary focus of the deal, accepted by Iran on Sunday and due to go into effect Nov. 22, is a stipulation that Iran indefinitely suspend its uranium enrichment program.

"I'm talking about information that says they not only have these missiles, but I am aware of information that suggests that they were working hard as to how to put the two together," Powell said, referring to the process of matching warheads to missiles.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57465-2004Nov17.html

[dewaldd]

1. Here we go again...are the media going to be bamboozled this time too?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

17. The media is helping with the bamboozling....after all,...

...they're owned by major corporate supporters of the NeoCon Junta.

[NVMojo]

27. Really, colin? Wow! I am so shocked!

[Beguine]

41. "Powell also recieved that previous reports suffered from typos

replacing some ns with qs.

[Politicub]

47. Of couse

It makes for good drama. All of the common folks be damned.

[Massacure]

2. Earth to Powell - We aren't listening to you anymore!

[The Zanti Regent]

32. Colin, what happened to the little boy who cried wolf too much?

Oh, why bother, this ass sold his soul to the devil years ago.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Class have we seen this before

No, not at all, not really, waht are you talking about, nope, no way, they will try again!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Try again...

How much do you want to bet that books will come out (from usual suspsects) and soon we will even hear from the Prince of Darkness himself, (Perle)

[daleo]

4. Powell has lost all credibility - remember the lying U.N. performance

Naturally they are going to put a warhead of some kind in a missile.

[natrat]

5. sad-they probably are making it and

want to blow the shit out of somebody-but nobody except the murikans will believe the fools

[Rose Siding]

7. You gotta wonder if it's intel from the New CIA or the Old CIA

There is no longer any way to know what is true.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

14. Riiiggghhhttt. Do you think Powell is being shown the same pictures...

...that he was shown before he gave his UN address on Iraqi WMDs?

Nobody but the "murikans" can pull the wool over the eyes of so many people.

[olddad56]

6. Oh no, Iran has weapons of mass destruction...

Of course, they are surrounded by countries with nuclear weapons, but why should they feel a need to defend themselves. India has nukes, Pakistan has nukes, Russia has nukes, Israel has nukes, China has nukes.

But alas, the Nuke Nazi says 'No Nukes for You'.

Maybe the people of Iran should just lay down and die. It would be the best thing for all concerned. It would certainly make liberating them much easier. It would definitely make the creation of a democratic state much easier. And the oil, oh the oil, it would make us getting the oil much easier. Yes, I think it would be very Christian of them to just drink the purple kool-aid. Our God knows what is best for them.

[LisaL]

8. Iran shouldn't have nukes.

Nukes will make liberating of Iranians very difficult.

[oblivious]

15. LOL. Painful, even.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

16. Do you actually believe that Iran has nukes? Haven't we been down...

...this very same road with Iraq?

[oblivious]

18. Umm, I took it as sarcasm. I thought it was funny.

[St. Jarvitude]

25. To make you feel better, I thought it was funny too

Made me snort :)

[driver8]

9. Are you kidding me??

They are actually using the same bullshit lies they used the first time!! I swear, these guys must have the biggest balls on earth...or they just think that the American people are idiots.

Fuck Colin Powell -- I wouldn't believe that son of a bitch if he told me the sky was blue!!

[amber dog democrat]

10. Powell is so -- FIRST CHIMP ADMINISTRATION

nobody will ever listen to him again.

[countmyvote4real]

11. Oh crap. Is the sky falling again?

Or it could be no-show wolves. Will they or won't they?

Please, just go away, Mr. Powell. Lying for your country is not a moral defense.

P.S.
It would be nice for our public airwaves if you could take your son away with you. Buh bye.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

12. Lions, and tigers, and bears, oh my. S2, D2....

Same Sh**, Different Day.

[Liberaltarian]

13. could someone PLEASE shut the window...

because i'm definitely feeling a draft.

[Ducks In A Row]

19. I wonder if the UN will stand up to the US and tell them to bite them

[alexisfree]

20. The Republicans will believe anything. Sad to say

[Zerex71]

21. Are these "missiles" anything like the 50,000 tons of sarin and VX?

Are they like the "WMD" that we "can't seem to find in Iraq" that Powell lied about before before the UN? Sure sounds like it.

Go retire you old warhorse!

[alexisfree]

22. What US city will the Bush admin take out this time to blame Iran??

http://www.911inplanesite.com/

9/11 VIDEO SHOCKS SACRAMENTO CITIZENS

August 13, 2004

Posted 1:010 AM Eastern

NewsWithViews.com

A new 9-11 video was screened last night in Sacramento, California, leaving the audience stunned. '911 in Plane Site' is basically presented in two parts. The first segment is 52 minutes and designed for showing on television with the balance of a one hour time slot reserved for commercials. Part II continues with more film and analysis. This video is digitally mastered making details sharp and clear.

'911 in Plane Site' presents actual film from that fateful day and careful analysis focusing on the Pentagon and the two World Trade Center buildings. By slowing down the actual news feeds that day from networks like CNN, FOX, the BBC and others, what you see is quite different from what most people saw in "real time" that day. Live footage from the Pentagon and what was missed by most because of the smoke and confusion was captured up close by the media. Following the showing, a retired vet remarked, "How did we miss this all this time? I've seen media clips of the front of that building many times, but I wasn't really seeing what was there. I feel sick."

One particular interview that brought gasps from the audience and many looking around with shock etched on their faces was an interview conducted - live at the time - by FOX News. This intense interview with Mark Burnback, an employee of FOX News, contains the following narrative, paraphrased: Burnback was close to the path of the second plane and had a good long look at what he describes was not a commercial airliner. The plane that hit the second tower had no windows, Burnback was very clear about that. The plane had some kind of blue logo on the front near the nose and looked like a cargo plane. This point was driven to the viewer several times along with the comment from this FOX employee that "this plane wasn't from around here or anything you'd see take off from the airport."

Other footage includes several women who had a very clear view watching the second plane hit were yelling, "That wasn't American Airlines....It wasn't American Airlines going into the building." These interviews were played that morning once on FOX News, never to be replayed again, despite the massive saturation and repetition by the media for many days to come.

Other extremely disturbing segments of this video are the clear, slow motion shots of the second plane going into the towers which show a flash right before the nose of the plane hits the building and a pod attached to the bottom of the plane. This strange flash is clearly recorded from four different angles from four different cameras. While there is only one known piece of film showing the first plane hitting the first tower, in slow motion one can clearly see - as with the second plane - a flash from the nose section right before impact. What caused this?

This video raises extremely disturbing questions about the planes that hit the Pentagon and the World Trade Centers, but no conclusions or accusations are made by the commentator. To date, only one piece of film has been released by DoD of the front of the Pentagon. The question raised in the video is where is all the other film footage from the Pentagon? The heart beat of America's military and security, with a building and perimeter loaded with cameras, but no film for the public to view of events as they unfolded except from one camera?

According to the producers, the purpose of '911 in Plane Site' is to demonstrate that Americans saw one thing that morning that was so shocking, so horrific and so massive, the finer details weren't really being picked up. The producer reinforces to the viewer that after one broadcast of many very controversial interviews live on the spot, these particular interviews were never broadcast again, i.e. firefighters on the spot talking about the explosions and bombs inside the towers. Since 9-11, it has been reported that "Building Seven" collapsed because of the two World Trade Center towers collapsing. However, the footage on this video tells a different story and raises more questions.

'911 in Plane Site,' produced by Power Hour Productions (to order video, call: 800-955-0116), leaves one with many questions as demonstrated by a very upset senior citizen who requested her last name be withheld. Mary asked, "If these weren't commercial airliners, where are those flights? Where are the passengers? My, God what really happened that day?" Indeed, this seemed to be the biggest question expressed by viewers after the lights came back on, but for which there were no answers. Some viewers were visibly upset, angry and "want damn answers" from the Bush Administration. Others just walked out the door in silence. One upset man commented on the way out of the viewing, "It's time to get this on PBS and every investigative news program on TV. We need answers."

[mike_c]

23. got satellite photos...?

eom

[Gyre]

24. Sit down and STFU loser!

One would listen to you talk shit about how scary another country is because, exactly why? Lying to the world about how scary Iraq was wasn't enough for you?

Gyre

[Barkley]

26. If Iran is developing nukes, our invasion of Iraq is to blame.

‘open your country to weapon inspectors and get invaded.’

The message from Iraq and North Korea to Iran and other countries is the way to escape Saddam Hussein's fate is to ‘get a nuclear bomb quickly, before the United States finds out about it.’

Let's see this missile evidence?

Iran is pursuing satellite launchers capability by using its ballistic missiles as rocket boosters.

Nothing illegal about it... that's how we got into space.

[Kenergy]

28. Sure Colin...we believe you...NOT n/t

[NickB79]

29. I hear springtime in Terhan is just lovely

Flowers blooming amongst the burnt-out Humvees, grateful Iranians throwing blossoms from their national tree, the high-explosive-fragmentation-grenade maple, and celebratory gunfire day and night. In fact, they're so happy they want to make sure you see the gunfire by firing directly at you. Yes, you too can experience all this and more, and you don't even have to apply to win! Just wait in anticipation for your lucky number to be called, and you win a draft card! Thank you for choosing Bushco, and have a wonderful war.

[pippin]

30. Preparing Us to Go to War Again

So watch out Iran here we come. Ofcourse they meant all along to go after Iran, but not knowing the difference between Iran and Iraq the idiots in the White House invaded Iraq. Maybe they'll get their geography straight one of these days. :-(

[flobee1kenobi]

31. We have 2 diffrent stories here

Powell says they are building nukes
the EU say they have talked Iran into stopping their uranium enrichment program-and Iran verified it

I sense a bit of envy on the part of USA
The US was part of the talks to stop Libya's program, and they milked that cow dry during the election.
The US wasn't even asked for input when talks started with EU/Iran, and bush gets pissed off.
After the talks are sucessful, bushco goes back to the old playbook of
"our intellegence says Iran has Nukes" trying desprately not to become irrelevant.

After the first round of massive intel. failures, why should ANYONE believe what a man who is about to be out of a job anyway has to say?

[berni_mccoy]

33. I've said it before

My gutt says Iran is planning an attack on our troops while they are over there. This is going to get ugly. Like a fencer about to take a hit, we have thrust forward too hard missing the target and we have overextended ourselves. Our opponent (really Al-qaeda) has barely needed to dodge and we are left unbalanced. They will counter while we are in this position and it will cost us dearly. Bush and his lot are either terrible military strategists, or this is all part of a plan to get what they want. Either way, it's bad for the people of America and Iraq.

[flobee1kenobi]

34. I don't buy it

not a single word of it!

Why should I?
whatever proof the have will be suspect.

[berni_mccoy]

37. Sorry, I should have said

The U.S. is planning to have Iran attack us with a nuke in order to justify all-out war on the region and starting the draft.

:tinfoilhat:

[3days]

35. HHHmmmmm Powell or the EU

Now which one was right about Iraq?
Do you have any pix from space to back this one up too, Colon?

[berni_mccoy]

38. Should we take the word...

of a madman or the word of the EU?

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,240362,00.jpg

[cubsfan forever]

36. And with whom does Mr. Powell have credibility?

The more one digs into his career, the more putrid the smell.
He had many opportunities to show some guts during his disgraceful term of "service" with Commander FullDiaper, ArterialShuntboy, Dumsfeld, and Asscroft. He declined every one of them. Here's to you, Colon Bowel. The blood of brave soldiers and innocent civilians is on YOUR hands! :nuke:

Professor 2

[0007]

39. Shut up Powell, we've heard enough of your lies already.

[unfrigginreal]

40. Laying the groundwork to look the other way when Israel attacks?

I can't think of any other reason for him to go public with this.

[Nightwing]

42. Looks more and more like a draft is coming

Hopefully, no draft dodging chicken hawks will be able to skate through. If they voted for Bush, they should and must be made to serve in his never ending war.

When the wealthy in this nation start losing kids to war, that will finally wake them up.

[Liberaltarian]

45. losing their kids won't wake them up...

losing some of their money will.

[NNN0LHI]

43. Good. You and your fat ass son go over there and stop them then

Send us a postcard from Tehran when you get there.

Don

[ally_sc]

44. Does anyone actually believe this...

Rice will probably put her two cents in. Where's the proof???
Somehow I have a sinking feeling this is leading up to another attack this one on Iran.
I hope we will have anti war demonstrations, and soon.

[DS1]

46. After seeing what happened in Iraq - I'd be going gangbusters to build

a bomb too :eyes:

WHOOMP THERE IT IS!
WHOOMP THERE IT IS!
WHOOMP THERE IT IS!

[Clayt]

48. Now we'll have to bring democracy to Iran.