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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:11 PM
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Bush to Make U-Turn in Iraq Policy, Says Leading Sen. (Biden) to NFPW
WILMINGTON, Del.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 6, 2003--In a speech on Sunday, President George W. Bush will try to stem rising voter disillusion with his administration's postwar occupation of Iraq by taking a "U-turn" and enlisting United Nations support, the Democrats' leading foreign policy spokesman, U.S. Sen. Joseph Biden, said Saturday.

"The President will go on air and explain why it is critical that we stay in Iraq," said Biden, D-Delaware. Biden bowed out of his party's presidential primary race, saying he could be more effective as a senator in shaping foreign policy than as a candidate. He is the ranking member and former chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and a member of the Judiciary Committee.

Biden said that earlier this week Condoleezza Rice, Bush's national security advisor, assured him that it didn't matter whether the vice president or defense secretary had "signed off" on the policy change.

"It doesn't matter," Biden quoted Rice as saying. "The President has made his decision." He said her comment was in response to his question about whether Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney had "signed off" on any change. According to Biden, it's Cheney who "runs the show on foreign policy."

Biden predicted Bush will go to the U.N. soon for a resolution seeking military and political support and ask it "to participate in rebuilding Iraq," which he estimated will cost at least $100 billion. Biden said he has been critical in the past of the administration's go-it-alone policy in Iraq but not of its motivation.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:13 PM
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1. khephra
please fix the link, I'm falling off the screen.

Thanks


DYEW
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:24 PM
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8. Sorry, but I don't know how to change it
And that's the only link I have.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:06 PM
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18. Khephra....
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 03:13 PM by ParanoidPat
....for future reference type "[link:" (minus the
"  ") then cut and paste the link with no spaces
"[link:http://www.sjklljlaj...."
Remove the http:// so it looks like
"[link:www.sjklljlaj...."
At the end of the link place a "|"
Cut and paste or type the text you wish to appear "story
title" followed by "]".

For example, a link to http://news.google.com becomes

[link:news.google.com|Google News] and will be displayed as
Google News. :)

On Edit: Forgot to re-check the 'plain text' box after
previewing!
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:07 PM
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19. Fixed link
Article


Just click on the HTML lookup table in the message option to learn how to link; it's easy; :hi:
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saskatoon Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:19 PM
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24. links
Hilite whats in the Address bar, click Edit(up top) click Copy, then go to the place where you want to post it and click to get cursor flashing and click Paste
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 07:15 PM
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26. Normally yes, but...
Some URL links are so long that they will fall over the horizon and require scrolling into the next county to read the text. By using (link:URL|Text) with bowlegs substituted for square brackets will allow us to shorted it up a bit and make everyone's life a little easier. Text can be anything you decide to type, 'More', 'Article', 'Full Story', 'Link', 'Go Here', etc... The one secret I found to make this magic happen is to drop the HTTP;// thingy and start with WWW. or what follows, and of course, always check to see if link works in preview before posting. ParanoidPat got it right.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:14 PM
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2. The story I heard was...
... Powell went to Bush and told him the US has to go to the UN, that it was all arranged already and the Pentagon brass were all behind it. And Incurious George just nodded and said Duh. Now he's trying to take credit for the U-turn. Idiot.
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:17 PM
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5. He will try to take credit for a "bold, strong" policy repositioning
but in fact all he is trying to do is save his ass.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:16 PM
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3. I hope Kofi Annan
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 02:17 PM by DoYouEverWonder
knows that he's got W by the balls at the moment, and makes the best of the situation.

His first demand should be to let UN weapons inspectors back in.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:37 PM
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11. I believe I read yesterday in LBN the US said No to UN inspectors.
Edited on Sat Sep-06-03 02:38 PM by leftchick
I will try and find the link. I think this is one issue where the US has to give in. Hell, they beat that WMD horse to death already so why not let them in?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:42 PM
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12. Should NATO
attack Iraq if the US doesn't let inspectors in?

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femmecahors Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:55 PM
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14. Your post is funnier than mine. n/t
...
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:12 PM
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20. good one DYEW! Here is the link....
though I see it is newsmax so, who knows how credible it is :eyes: ... http://www.newsmax.com/popunders/deckofhillary.htm
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femmecahors Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:53 PM
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13. Weapons of Mare Destruction . . .
Couldn't help myself.
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saskatoon Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:24 PM
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25. I hope Kofi and UN stand firm and say
"we will come in but we get to have as much say in everything as you do". After all the US did the damage and now to say we should expect other countries to come in and fix what we screwed up is ridiculous. I hope France remains firm and gets asshole to come to terms.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:17 PM
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4. $100 Billion dollars ??? new shrub estimate...that'll go over like
a lead ballon....
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 04:10 PM
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23. Yup, $100 billion now
What's the diff? It's coming from the bottomless pockets of the taxpayers, so who really cares?:eyes:
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:18 PM
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6. What a load of crap...
We can go it alone, bring 'em on, Old Europe...blah blah

This is a sign that things are going very badly for them. This is probably as close as we will ever get to them admitting they were wrong.
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:24 PM
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7. Sounds like the same damn policy to me.
We floated our resolution. It said nothing other than "give us money and troops". I expect nothing different Sunday. Bush's diplomatic efforts are directed at American voters, not foreign countries.

We can't run tail from Iraq. No sh*t. What Curious George has no plan for is how we can get the bulk of our guys out in the shortest amount of time without ditching hopes of non-aggressive Iraqi self-rule. I expect you won't hear him give up control of the civilian machinery, I expect you won't hear an election timetable his administration is going to follow, I expect you won't hear him actually reach out to the allies in any way other than to make himself regain his self-righteousness.

Bush's speeches ring about as hollow as Bill Clinton's denials of affairs, and I hope the country isn't as starstruck as these people in Texas.

The only thing that gives me any hope is that the Europeans still turn out to cheer Bill Clinton. They know the distinction between a miserable failure of a spouse and a miserable failure of a president.
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StandWatie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:02 PM
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16. We are going to one day anyway
The sooner we leave the less anti-American the government to follow will be so we should have left last month.
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:28 PM
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9. Nice sound bite...

I'm sure the misAdministration is once again grateful to Biden for covering their asses. If he's been "critical" in the past of the misAdministration, I wonder what his sycophancy looks like? Never mind, I don't want to know.

Like anything the Bushistas try, the devil is in the details. It's real easy to say they're going to enlist UN help, but I'd like to hear what they're willing to give up for it. My guess -- nothing.
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ILeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:37 PM
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10. But his great "strength" was that he never changed his mind.
I guess his new "strength" will be spun as his ability to negotiate the everchanging challenges of hostile imperialism through a remarkable ability and willingness to change his position.

Also, by asking for the UN's help, they hope to be able to place the blame for everything that goes wrong in Iraq on the UN- whether they help or not. It's a winner either way for the Bush reelection campaign. The "terrorists" are to blame for the economy, and now the UN will be to blame for Iraq.
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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 02:57 PM
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15. Why did the League of Nations fail ?
Because Hitler, Mousolini and others decided that whenever it wasn't in their interests to do what the League of Nations decreed, they would just give the finger to the League and do want they wanted to do. Basically the defect of the League was that they could not control the major powers.

And now bush* has just done the same thing to the UN, and going over to freerepublic and seeing their complete and utter disregard for the UN and all it stands for which probably existed before 911, it seems to suggest that there has been something of a propaganda effort to convert them into thinking this way. It's part of right-wing idealology that the UN is a joke.

The UN need to make an example of bush* and his cohorts for the good of the long term poltical stability of the planet.
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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:04 PM
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17. And this arrogant attitude
Well we want to invade a country so we will blow off the UN and call them every name in the book.

Six moths later and we need them now so we will suck up to them, throw a bit of money their way and they will be happy to climb back on board.

It just doesn't work for me.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:13 PM
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21. After his bullshit talk, he will then spin to say that France and Germany
are blocking all progress! Brian Williams gave it away the other night
when he depicted France's objections as "giving the US trouble."

That's how the spin will unfold, mark my words.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-06-03 03:54 PM
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22. Who says the UN can do any better??
I read yesterday that some people believe not even the UN can bring peace and security to Iraq!!! Was it on Bartcop??

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