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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:31 AM
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Creditors to Write Off Most of Iraq's Debt
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 08:32 AM by Tab
BERLIN - Germany's finance minister said Saturday that he and the U.S. Treasury Secretary have reached an agreement under which Iraq (news - web sites)'s creditors would write off up to 80 percent of Iraq's debt, capping a months-long U.S. push for debt forgiveness.

Finance Minister Hans Eichel said a meeting with Treasury Secretary John Snow "created the basis on which the forgiveness of Iraqi debt can be settled mutually in the Paris Club" of creditor nations, which is owed about $42 billion by Iraq.

"We agreed that there should be a write-off of debts in several stages amounting to 80 percent in total," Eichel told reporters on the sidelines of a meeting of ministers from the Group of 20 major economies.
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The United States has been pushing for a generous debt write-off for Iraq, trying to win support for wiping out as much as 95 percent of its debt.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=6&u=/ap/20041120/ap_on_re_eu/germany_iraq_debt
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:38 AM
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1. Gee, will the rest of the world allow us to write off OUR debt?
I'm happy for Iraq. According to Bush, their debt is being cleared for free, their people are getting free elections, health care, and all sorts of wonderful things that more Americans here at home are losing. :-(
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StopThief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:55 AM
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2. This will certainly help the new government. . . .
in establishing itself. Every little bit helps.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:01 AM
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3. BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT
We own freaking iraq now. Its not iraqs debt they are writing off, its the lien against our profits.

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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:17 AM
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6. Too true IMHO
Now the meager oil flow can line our pockets and not some other creditor.
On the other hand they wouldn't get much and if Iraq ever gets free they will remember the Europeans first.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:32 PM
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14. You mean the oil profits will
line the bushie oil cartels pockets - not ours. I would rather see Germany forgive the debt of some of the third world countries in Central and South America and Africa than Iraq. I think that American creditors should look forward to forgiving credit card debt here for individuals also - they keep up their policies and they won't have much choice.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:30 PM
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17. FWIW: this is a compromise
Germany offered 50%, the US demanded 95%.
Iraq is not the only country that got debt waived recently; Nicaragua and other countries were also forgiven.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:25 AM
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7. the spelling is bushit, bushit, bushit and
its haliburtan and bectels profits that are being protected and it is they who own the country. we are simply doing the dirty work to make it safe for them, the killing and all the really dirty stuff.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:03 AM
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4. That gives Bush's proxy Iraqi government more money to pay
Halliburton and other multinational companies that control Bush's administration.
:shrug:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:14 AM
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5. Make debts public.. privatize profit.. It's the Bush Doctrine
The American taxpayers shoulder the COST for the damage, destruction, and restoration.... The private contractors get paid in "new money" that we will also provide..

It's a win win..

It's like your neighbor taking a sledge hammer to your new car, then having a judge say he does not have to pay you for damages..and YOU are ordered to "loan" him the money so HE can buy a new car for himself...and you are still making payments for your damaged car..:)
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 10:48 AM
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8. When the "Revolution" is over and America withdrawls and the Baath Party
returns to power, with the Bush Crime Family unforgive the forgive?
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Zerex71 Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 11:04 AM
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9. The oil payments aren't cutting it, are they?
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Kill Radicalism Now Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:01 PM
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16. Hmm...Oil payments. Wonder who they're going to? nt
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VivaKerry Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:18 PM
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10. Putin must be thrilled!!!
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 02:55 PM
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11. what would the first george w. -- washington think?


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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 03:37 PM
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12. Bad news
for Iraq:

" Eichel said 30 percent of Iraq's debt would be written off immediately, another 30 percent in a second stage "tied to a program of the International Monetary Fund" and a further 20 percent "linked to the success of this program," he said. "

IMF programs typically privatize pretty much everything of value, in Iraq's case, that would be the oil. So this whole thing is just a cementing of the oil-grab that has underlied the whole invasion/occupation.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 03:57 PM
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13. Yep. The IMF puts the country jewels...
... into the company store.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:55 PM
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15. What's the quid pro quo?
Why would Germany bother doing this? Bush must have promised them something.
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