Ohio Presidential Results to be Challenged in the state Supreme Court

[seemslikeadream]

Ohio Presidential Results to be Challenged
by Steven Rosenfeld
November 20, 2004

Ohio’s 2004 presidential vote will be challenged as soon as next week in the state Supreme Court, a coalition of public-interest lawyers announced Friday.

The lawyers have taken sworn testimony from hundreds of people in hearings in Columbus and Cincinnati, and will use excerpts as well as documents obtained from county election officials and Election Day exit polls to make a case that thousands of votes were incorrectly counted or not counted on Election Day.

“The objective is to get to the truth,” said Columbus Ohio lawyer Cliff Arnebeck, coordinator of the Ohio Honest Elections Campaign. “What’s critically important, whether it’s President Bush or Sen. Kerry, whoever’s been elected actually elected, is to know you won by an honest election. So it’s in the interest of both sides as American citizens to know the truth and have this answered.”

The challenge comes as the Green Party has plans to file for a recount of the state’s 2004 presidential vote. The Green Party and the Ohio Honest Elections Campaign both believe the unofficial results announced on Election Day were wrong. Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell has not yet certified the Nov. 2 vote. The state’s election law says an election challenge must show the wrong candidate was been declared the winner, or it can be dismissed without a hearing. The state Supreme Court’s chief justice hears the case.

The Ohio Republican Party dismissed the challenge on Friday, the Associated Press reported, but the coalition announcing it said they were ready to litigate.
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[Kill Radicalism Now]

1. I'm not sure that it will really matter...

As much as I wish that it would make a difference, I don't think it will. There has been possible hacking in FL, dems registration cards ripped up in NV and OR. Kerry conceded too soon...

It will just piss off us Ohioans more if we find out Kerry actually won...

What a sad, sad day for democracy.

[seemslikeadream]

3. Concession not binding

Every vote will be counted!

[daleo]

18. It would make a difference

A crime, once detected and proved, can eventually be dealt with. If nothing else, it would put the apparent neocon momentum to the test.

[sunnybrook]

25. your response is fitting

especially given your screen name. Is demanding a fair election "radical" in you mind? Oh, never mind, I think I already have my answer for that...

[Pachamama]

28. Sounds like the only Ohioan who will be pissed is you....

:eyes:

[bloom]

30. Baron Hill conceded in Indiana - but asked for a recount

when it became clear that Democratic votes were going to the Libertarian candidate.

The concession means nothing.

[pbartch]

32. YOU ARE WRONG! Stop whining.

So what if if gets "some" ohioans angry??? More people will be gratified knowing that EVERY VOTE COUNTED.

[ooglymoogly]

35. dear dear person

even if kerry's concession were binding {which it is not} don't you think it would make a whole big lot of difference if the world knew bushit was a crook. how much capitol to spend would he then have if everybody knew he didn't win the election fare and square and was not the legitimate choice of the people in this democracy, using the word democracy loosely. and how long do you think it would take for the people to correct the situation.

[Donailin]

2. OK, who knows the political leanings of the state justices? n/t

[CatWoman]

5. looking it up now

http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/

[weezielove]

4. this is hopeful...but

Does it seem that most of the judges who are supposed to be bi-partisan are appointed by Republicans? Making me think THEY really are partisan. I just hope there are some who aren't corrupt...especially the ones who try this case.

[Kill Radicalism Now]

6. I think all (or most) are republican

we just elected supreme court justices here in Ohio and I'm pretty sure all the republicans won. That wouldn't have been so bad years ago, but with the "religious right" and neocons in power, I don't trust any republican politician. As a voter, I've revoked their power! I wish all people would join me in that.

[Name removed]

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[O.M.B.inOhio]

34. In a generous moment, wonder if conservatives are good...

I sometimes toy with the thought that conservatives are good and principled people, if somewhat lacking in imagination when it comes to other perspectives, other people's pain, or history pre 1950. Now, the Rove/Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld crew are wretched vampires (actually, Rumsfeld's real name is Renfield. Did you see the press conference where he called Cheney "Master" and ate bugs?) Those neocons are the lowest order of scum, and those who vote for them or lie to the UN for them are just misguidedly loyal, perhaps defensive that "their side" is so morally weak and is under attack, and don't understand that their side has been hijacked by bloodsucking inept used car salesmen, antiintellectual ideologues who with every action piss on the core values that conservatives have held for decades, but keep the rhetoric and some window dressing.

The point of this runon sentence? Some Republican judges make decisions based on principle, rather than choosing an outcome and mining the law for some excuse make it happen. So let's hold on to hope that the Ohio Supreme Court will hear the case fairly.

[Name removed]

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[Tempest]

8. You can roll over and play dead if you want to

But real Americans don't want to see democracy subverted.

Now or in the future.

[The Wielding Truth]

10. That's just how I feel Tempest!!! Fair Elections!!!

[gristy]

9. hmmmm

You've been drinking the kool-aid, haven't you.

[Name removed]

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[CatWoman]

11. so I suppose all the sleazy games the Republicans played

are a ok with you?

and we should just stfu and take it?

and not call their slimy bullshit for what it is?

what about future elections? will there even BE future elections?

[Name removed]

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[CatWoman]

17. The Alert Button can be your friend.

:hi:

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[CatWoman]

21. Patience, Grasshopper

:D

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[CatWoman]

15. LOLOLOLOL

Too funny :D

[clydefrand]

23. More words

reef
pubic
pub
curb
cup
cure
life
lifer
blue
blur
brief

[are_we_united_yet]

33. Ooohh!

Very good! Very good!

:)

[forintegrity]

13. The elections are NOT over..

until all the votes are counted, or recounted, as the case may be.

Moving on is exactly what they (those who stole the election) would like us all to do!

[Name removed]

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[seemslikeadream]

22. Ohio Supreme Court

Maureen O'Connor Republican
Alice Robie Resnick Democrat
Evelyn Lundberg Stratton Republican
Thomas J. Moyer Republican
Paul E. Pfeifer Republican
Terrence O'Donnell Republican
Francis E. Sweeney Sr. Republican
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1099478273312881.xml

[Jo March]

24. Well, I guess I'll have to keep those names and enter them

into my database for contacts. I will flood them with mail as soon as I get them added and get my letter written.

Anyone happen to have their emails or addresses right off the top of their heads? ;)

[seemslikeadream]

26. I have this

Justice Maureen O'Connor
Supreme Court of Ohio
65 South Front Street
Columbus, Ohio 43215-3431
614.387.9060 (phone)

Justice Alice Robie Resnick
Supreme Court of Ohio
65 South Front Street, 9th Floor
Columbus, Ohio 43215-3431
614.387.9040 (phone)
614.387.9049 (fax)

Evelyn Lundberg Stratton
Supreme Court of Ohio
65 South Front Street, 9th Floor
Columbus, Ohio 43215-3431
Ph: [phone] Fax: [phone]

Francis E. Sweeney Sr.
CONTACT INFORMATION
Supreme Court of Ohio
65 South Front Street
Columbus, Ohio 43215-3431
614.387.9070

http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/Justices/

[Jo March]

27. You are a beautiful human being

Thanks. I've created a database and I plan on having as many elected officials in it as I can. :)

[Donailin]

29. Oh, doesn't it figure.

Thanks for looking, though. I feel even more pessimistic now. :-(