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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:52 PM
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Destroying it to save it?
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usnews/20041120/ts_usnews/destroyingittosaveit&cid=926&ncid=1473

FALLUJAH, IRAQ--Once the sky stopped raining fire and the smoke from the tank cannons vanished, it was time to pick up the pieces. But where to start? What had been houses were now piles of brick and glass, demolished by 500-pound bombs. Whole city blocks were leveled, the rubble and mangled carcasses of cars pushed to the sides of the streets by the force of Abrams tanks. In crushing the Sunni insurgents who had laid claim to the streets, U.S. and Iraqi forces left Fallujah looking like a city ripped asunder by a hurricane. "It's in bad shape. I don't know what they have to come back to," said Sgt. 1st Class John Ryan of the 1st Infantry's Division Task Force 2-2, which flanked U.S. marines on the eastern side of the city during the fighting.

As muted sounds of gunfire crackled in the city last week, Ryan, along with the soldiers of Alpha Company, took shelter in a damaged house. Picking through debris, a soldier wondered out loud, "What is this place? Hell." In an upstairs bedroom, the unit's Iraqi translator took a ballpoint pen and wrote on a closet door in small, neat Arabic: "We're sorry about the destruction of this house and all the houses of this town. We came here to make peace and bring safety."

Bringing safety to restive Iraqi cities is an increasingly costly exercise for U.S. forces stretched thin by their pursuit of insurgents across the Sunni triangle. Even as Fallujah was declared "secure" (although not "safe"), the military deployed troops to counter insurgents in the cities of Mosul and Baquba. Rooting out a thousand or so insurgents in Fallujah required American commanders to commit some 10,000 troops, reinforced by punishing air power. The Army's 1st Infantry Division, lacking the number of soldiers necessary to search every house, employed its tanks, blasting heavy cannon rounds in answer to snipers' gun-and mortar fire to minimize time--and U.S. casualties. "You never want to destroy someone's city like this. These people have worked hard for what they have," said Staff Sgt. David Bellavia, of Task Force 2-2's Alpha Company. "But this was the only way to eliminate those fanatics."

Hit or miss. While some houses survived with little damage, whole swaths of the city were made virtually unlivable. On the eastern side of Fallujah, which suffered some of the heaviest fighting, the front of one house looked as if it had been sliced off with a bread knife. The upstairs bedroom remained intact, a small vase of plastic roses sitting undisturbed above a perfectly made bed while the guts of the house spilled into the front yard, burying a man caked with blood and dust.

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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:55 PM
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1. I think the Iraq war now has a defining slogan
"We're sorry about the destruction of this house and all the houses of this town. We came here to make peace and bring safety."


This generation now has its own version of:

"It became necessary to destroy the village in order to save it."
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:28 PM
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12. ...and in another sick sin-ario:
Mr. Yates has accepted *s nomination for Secretary of Defense and RumDumb says he'll stay on to show him the ropes so he can move back into the field of pharmaceutical murder (though only AFTER those in danger of "LACK OF FREEDOM" can be born (again); it's so much cleaner, more like a baptism in the tub, no ashes to clean up.

It takes a village to raze a child, said B*. (PUN INTENDED)

To his children: "This hurts me more than it does you, said Yates, but you'll thank me for it in THE END!

BUSHIE LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN
ALL GODS CHILDREN 'ROUND THE WORLD
BE THEY POOR-bred, BROWN, OR RED (Can you pick the one that doesn't belong?)
THEY ARE FAR BETTER OFF DEAD
BUSHIE LOVES GOD'S CHILDREN OF THE WORLD

though I think his visit will also keep his personal supply lines open:
Two lines for breakfast
and for dessert after dinner,
some ice cream w/POPPY JUICE reduction sauce from Afghanistan.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:



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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:56 PM
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2. this sums it up well
"It's a war for freedom and democracy where there is no mercy, no law, no difference between men, women, and children. This is the American way of democracy?"
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Kill Radicalism Now Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:58 PM
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6. A mosque was invaded...
And "militant" dissenters were arrested. How long before that starts happening here? That's no freedom...that's no democracy.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:57 PM
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3. Makes you wonder How to eliminate those fanatics at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:57 PM
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4. 'This was the only way to eliminate those fanatics' -- bullshit
this was the easiest way to eliminate those who resist us
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PsN2Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:04 PM
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8. Barry Goldwater
The icon of the right said "Fanaticism in the defense of freedom is a virtue". Possibly they don't want what we are calling democracy.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:11 PM
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9. What we call democracy gives power to the people...
what conservatives call democracy gives more power to the already powerful so that they can brainwash us into thinking we're a free and democratic society.

Consume. Shop. Consume. Shop. Consume.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:06 PM
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14. I believe Barry said "extremism" rather than "fanaticism"...I'm sorry to
admit I actually voted for him in 1964, mostly because I was a tyro in politics and he was kind of a "friend"...I had talked with him on ham radio a few times...
:eyes:
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:57 PM
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5. And now we get to spend 90 million of our dollars to fix it!
Fuck OUR health insurance (or anything else), because we just HAD to bomb Fallujah.

:grr:
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:26 PM
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11. 90 million won't begin to cover it
that's about $300 per inhabitant. $900 million, perhaps. Still, that would be only about one week's budget for the Iraq Occupation Project.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:03 PM
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7. That could refer to anything right now.
Social Security
Health Care
The job market
The environment........

You name it.
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:18 PM
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10. Baghdad tonight 112004
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:30 PM
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13. "..We came here to make peace and bring safety."
BBaaaaWWAaaaaaaahahahahaha LOL

ROFLMAO

What a gut buster.

The Iraqis will love us more now right?

The difference between us and them is our leaders think they can change anything, anyone at anytime. They know better.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:08 PM
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15. $100 Bucks per house hold
Apprently i heard, 100 bucks per household for the people in fallujah who houses got wrecked by us bombs. Im sure that will cover everything.
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