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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:42 AM
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Saudi bride roughs up guest for photographing her with camera phone
RIYADH (AFP) - An enraged Saudi bride badly beat up a female wedding guest who had photographed her with a camera-equipped mobile phone, a newspaper reported.

After spotting the woman taking the picture in the all-female section of the party in the western city of Taif, the bride "beat her severely, destroyed her mobile phone and pulled her by her hair in front of all the guests," the Al-Jazirah daily said.

The bride then ripped off the woman's veil and announced through a microphone the woman's motives, before receiving a round of applause "for being vigilant". She then tidied up her appearance and proceeded with the celebration.

Camera-equipped mobile phones are ostensibly banned in the conservative kingdom, where men and women celebrate weddings separately, leaving women at liberty to discard the all-covering black cloaks and veil that are obligatory in the presence of men.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1516&ncid=1516&e=1&u=/afp/20041121/od_afp/saudi_mobile_offbeat_041121111103
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Spangle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 10:55 AM
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1. You Go Girl!
Sorry, Had to say that. I hate it when people take my picture without my "ok."

In this case, the Bride might be "old school." Which means it would be a "shame" if a man who isn't family sees her face. The woman taking the picture took away that womans right to not allow men to see her face.

Also, if she is of the belief (which some are) that if a man sees them and becomes sexual intrested, the shame falls on the women for causing the "sin" of lust in another. Must be nice to think one is so pretty to cause such a reaction.. Tee Heee....
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demon67 Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:12 AM
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2. Sorry, I missed the memo
Are we now CELEBRATING religious-based violence and intollerance? Fines against broadcasting a woman's uncovered breast are bad, but violence against "shaming" a woman by photographing her uncovered face is good. Okay, I think I got it now.
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ahimsa Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:04 PM
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6. A better analogy might be..
.. fining a tv channel for broadcasting a nipple when only one person allegedly saw the nipple and then proceeded to destroy all the evidence. Who's to say the guest was actually taking a photo and not just looking at her phone to see what time it was?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:05 PM
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7. Well, if you were photographed in the locker room or bathroom
without your permission or your clothes, how would you feel?
It's not o'key to photograph someone in a place they expect privacy without their permission.
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PDX Bara Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:53 AM
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4. No Photo
Although I don't espouse physical violence as a means of making a point, as one who absolutely detests being photographed against my will, I can certainly understand why this might have happened, especially if there are cultural or religious reasons prohibiting such activities. If the photographer was veiled, it would appear that she certainly should have known better.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 11:35 AM
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3. These people need to get the shit out of their heads and
catch up with the rest of the world.

These are the same people that behead criminals, stone people in some of the poorer sections of the pop, still don't have open elections, don't let women vote or drive, allow married men to have girlfriends, but if a women does it, then she can be killed by her husband.

They are modern by all appearances but firmly rooted in the 13th century.

This woman's reaction to the other taking her photo is, to say the least, overkill and one more example of womens rights being handcuffed by their societies suffocating traditions.
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marmadogg Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:00 PM
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5. Yeah, physically abusing someone is OK.
The only recourse the bride had was to demand the pictures be erased and tell the lady to leave.

No wonder these zealots fund Al Queda. They are out of control.

We should have invaded Saudi Arabia instead.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:06 PM
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8. Just give Bush some time, will you?
He still has plenty of time to invade other countries.
:eyes:
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:09 PM
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9. "announced through a microphone the woman's motives"
What were the woman's motives for taking the picutre? Why were they so offensive to the bride?
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Tradnor Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:14 PM
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10. Motives
It seems to me, this is the cultural equivalent of a woman in the U.S. using a camera phone to take pictures inside a women's locker room or bathroom: taking photos of women in a culturally-inappropriate state of undress, presumably for the titillation of men. That's how I read the "motives" in the article, at least. While violence is not the best response, it's not right to photograph someone without permission.
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Hard Attack Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:07 PM
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11. And when she was done, her husband kicked the crap out of the bride
And when she was done, her husband kicked the crap out of the bride.

*joke*
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Wright Patman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 03:21 PM
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12. Images
created by man's devices are the work of the devil.

Capturing images takes away a part of your soul.

All cameras should be destroyed and banned. It is idolatry, I say.

This means no more of those always unflattering driver's license photos will be allowed either.

Much of the above is said in jest, but it would sure put a big roadblock in the way of Big Brother if we could return to the 7th Century.
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