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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:24 AM
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Touch screens reduced spoiled ballots
BY ANDRES VIGLUCCI

aviglucci@herald.com

In November 2000, the voting precinct at Lillie C. Evans Elementary School in Liberty City was among the worst embarrassments in a dysfunctional presidential election: of 868 punch-card ballots, 113 were discarded as ''overvotes'' or ''undervotes,'' the worst rate in Miami-Dade County.

What a difference four years and $25 million for new voting equipment make.

When 755 people voted for president this month on touch-screen machines at Precinct 255 at the school, there wasn't a single chad in evidence, hanging or otherwise.

In fact, there wasn't a single discarded vote.

more: http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/10242607.htm

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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:28 AM
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1. So, they are saying that in Florida of all places, 100 fewer people
voted this election than last?????

My ass...some votes got discarded, and the jackass didn't even question his own numbers.
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WhoWantsToBeOccupied Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:29 AM
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2. And we know every vote counted because....????
Have they matched the number of votes to the number who signed in to vote?

Why did 868 people vote in 2000 and only 755 in 2004?

(I can't view the article. Perhaps it answers these basic questions?)
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paz Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:34 AM
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3. 755 + 133 = 868
What happened to those other 113 voters?
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:36 AM
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4. they were discarded.
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paz Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:36 AM
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5. Corrected to 755 +113 = 868
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:39 AM
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6. Diebold, is that you?
Just kidding, :hi:

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mulethree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:25 AM
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7. 100% turnout
755 registered voters and 755 votes

In 2000 there were 1331 registered voters and 868 voted.

Precinct #255 Miami Dade County

http://elections.metro-dade.com/currstat.html
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:38 AM
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8. Oh, I see.
The rolls were successfully purged! Good work, R's. :puke:

-Laelth
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ItsThePeopleStupid Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:22 PM
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10. I sent an email to the 'reporter' and cc'd ombudsman
At least they will know people aren't taking this whitewashing at face value.
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:22 PM
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11. Thanks! I wrote the author an email highlighting this
If we send a lot of letters, maybe they will take another look.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:14 PM
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9. Yeah
out of the 755 voters at the polling place
4000 of them voted for Bush.
Not a single spoiled ballot.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:24 PM
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12. and how do we know
that during the tabulation process, numbers weren't "adjusted" so that people's "ballots" don't match the final count? We don't. There ARE no ballots.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:47 PM
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13. EXACTLY
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 03:48 PM by depakid
of course they reduced spoilage. There aren't any ballots. DUH!

Americans never cease to amaze me at how stupid they are.

I can't find my way out of here fast enough.
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