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DeepGreen Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 08:30 PM
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Lawyers Attempt to Bar Bush From Canada
Lawyers in Canada trying to bar Bush from enterin -

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Dear Prime Minister Martin:

It was with absolute dismay that we learned of the planned visit of President Bush to Canada on November 30th 2004.

Surely you are aware of the many grave crimes against humanity and war crimes for which President Bush stands properly accused by the world, starting with the Nuremberg Tribunal’s ‘supreme international crime’ of waging an aggressive war against Iraq in defiance of international law and the Charter of the United Nations, and including systematic and massive violations of the Geneva Conventions Relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War and Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, as well as the United Nations Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. As recently as November 16, U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights and former war crimes prosecutor Louise Arbour called for an investigation into crimes against the Geneva Conventions in the assault by US forces on the densely populated city of Fallujah.

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http://www.lawyersagainstthewar.org/news/martinletternov1904.html
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 08:32 PM
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1. save me Alberto save me.
At first I misread the header. They're trying to do what to Bar Bu$h in Canada? Thought the dragon lady had pissed 'em off...well outside of birthing the bastard son.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 08:33 PM
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2. Too bad these folks
can't present the case against Bush to the World Court.....
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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 08:33 PM
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3. Technically, doesn't his past DUI
keep him from entering the country without special permission? I heard this somewhere but I can't seem to confirm it.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 08:39 PM
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5. I guess he shouldn't ask Cheney to be a character reference
Since Big Dick also has DUIs.

Was this what you're thinking of, Sannum? From 2000 ...

"Luckily for Bush, if he is elected president of the United States Nov. 7 and is invited to any gatherings of heads of state in Canada, since his offense is more than five years old, there are ways for him to gain entry without breaking federal law.

“He is going to have to go through what’s called the rehabilitation process. The rehab takes a while and it would be somewhat demeaning for a president of the United States. He would have to go through a series of steps, including getting letters from friends saying he has cleaned up his act. If he wanted to come to Canada before completing the lengthy rehab process, he would need the permission of a senior immigration official,” immigration lawyer Colin R. Singer tells ABCNEWS."

"According to a “rehab check list” compiled by the Canadian law firm of Larson, Bryson & Boulton, the Canadian government considers several factors when determining whether a person wanting entry to Canada has truly rehabilitated themselves from their criminal offense and deserves entry, including: acceptance of responsibility for the offense; evidence of remorse; evidence of a change in lifestyle; and, evidence of stability in employment and family life."

http://www.drunkdrivingdefense.com/consequences/bush-dui.htm



"George W. Bush, President of the USA legally could not cross the border into Canada due to his DUI conviction until he was granted a special dispensation from the Canadian Government which allowed him to visit. Fortunately, the Candian Governement processed the documentation allowing Mr. Bush unlimited access to Canada until 2005."


http://gocanada.about.com/cs/bordercrossing/a/what_stops_you.htm
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 08:35 PM
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4. Puh-leeez let Canada recind the invite! Maybe it would make a few more
of the lemmings think past their noses.

(From the letter, a couple of my favorite parts):


The President’s responsibility for these offences derives not only from his ‘command responsibility' as Commander in Chief of US forces, for crimes that he knew were being committed, or ignored through willful blindness, but did nothing to prevent; it also comes from his direct involvement in the formulation of policy. This includes his personal involvement not only in the devising and waging of an aggressive, illegal war, but also of the unlawful refusal to grant prisoner of war status to prisoners of war, contrary to specific provisions of the Geneva Conventions, an act repudiated in the US Courts.<4> It also includes the approval of techniques of interrogation by his direct subordinate, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, that legally and morally constitute torture and that led directly to the disgraceful violence against Iraqi prisoners, for example at the prison at Abu Ghraib.

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It is for all these reasons we urgently request a meeting with you, the Foreign Minister, the Attorney General or your representatives in Ottawa, so that we might have the opportunity to elaborate on these matters and to persuade you to declare President Bush persona non grata in Canada, or at least to rescind this invitation, and thus to avoid implicating yourselves and Canada in the most serious of international crimes.

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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 11:00 PM
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13. oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please n/t
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 08:41 PM
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6. Read THIS DU thread...
...apparently Junior is going to land in Halifax International Airport, have his little photo op RIGHT THERE, and will then get back on the plane. No "visit," unless you consider landing Air Force One a "visit."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1022272
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 08:42 PM
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7. With so many lawyer-haters out there,
this kind of news just makes me smile.

Heroes, eh?
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DeepGreen Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 09:49 PM
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10. Go Lawyers !!
We need you !!
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 08:45 PM
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8. Martin is a corporate lackey he wouldn't be caught dead recinding the
invite. Bravo to these Lawyers for pointing out bush's** crimes against humanity.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 09:43 PM
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9. Once again, lawyers fighting for justice!
Kudoz to the Candadian Plaintiffs' bar!

:toast:

-Laelth
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 09:50 PM
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11. drip...drip....drip......
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 10:01 PM
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12. I say invite him with open arms.
Edited on Thu Nov-25-04 10:05 PM by Dem2theMax
Then put handcuffs on him, throw him in Canadian jail (make sure to give him the Abu Ghraib welcome) and put him on trial for those war crimes. :evilgrin:

But I like the lawyers idea too. :)


Edit: Darn. A problem with my idea. From the letter:

"However, as you also know, should President Bush come to Canada now, while still President, he would be clothed with both diplomatic and head of state immunity from our laws and we would be powerless to bring him to justice."

So, revised plan. Still let him come to Canada. Get him drunk. Let him drive. Arrest him for DUI. Then keep him in jail till his term is over. THEN put him on trial for war crimes. It'll keep him in a safe location. And he can't cause any more problems for the world.
How's that sound? :evilgrin:
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