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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:45 AM
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Concerned Locals Push For Presidential Election Fraud Probe

12:24 pm PT, Thursday, Nov 25, 2004

Medford, Oregon -- "We believe exit polls in the Ukraine, but we don't believe exit polls in the U.S.," said Tim Ream. "What is that telling us?" Ream was one of the speakers at a meeting Monday night in the Medford Public Library attended by about 75 people from Southern Oregon who want the federal government as well as state governments to investigate occurrences they say indicate widespread fraud in the 2004 U.S. presidential election.

"The exit poll is a very pure type of sampling; you're taking a random number of people who just left the voting place," said Ream, who lives in the Applegate Valley. "Historical data has shown time and time again that exit polls are very accurate." Ream added that in Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and a number of other states, exit poll percentages contrasted sharply with election results, and in all cases the disparity was in favor of President George Bush.
Ream noted that several statistical studies were undertaken regarding the issue. "One team out of Berkley concluded that the odds are 250 million to one that it could just be a coincidence that the exit polls could be so wrong," he said adding that a growing number of Americans suspect that Republicans stole the election and John Kerry was the true winner.

Ashland resident, Mat Marr, who also spoke at the meeting, cited a study undertaken by Professor Steven Freeman of the University of Pennsylvania. "Freeman looked at past exit polls and found that they are amazingly accurate," said Marr. "Then he studied the results on the 2004 election and identified several states where the results massively shifted toward Bush, contradicting the exit polls." <snip>

http://www.vallejonews.com/articles/index.cfm?artOID=251855&cp=60


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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:58 AM
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1. Thanks - good post. n/t
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:06 AM
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2. This really should be a nonpartisan, mainstream issue. eom
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Mokito Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:20 AM
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3. Should be...Like every vote should be counted.
But do you honestly expect that to ever happen?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:22 AM
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4. How hard we are willing to fight for it will determine how close we get ..
.. to the ideal.
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joevoter Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 01:48 AM
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5. Hey that's me
I am in this group. This picture only shows 1/2 of the group however. We split up into action teams. This one is "election fraud exposed" and these are a very dedicated bunch. We could not get local TV news coverage (they told me it was not a local issue) but we might at the next one in Ashland (I expect 300 people). We are going to sponsor some volunteers to go to OH and FL. True, the harder we work the closer we can get so we need to pick actions that have specific goals and are achievable. We are starting with a fund raiser.

- joevoter

<http://www.fugw.org>
Fraud Uncovered - Government Watch

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:27 AM
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6. If only this could get picked up in the major media
And if only Bush, Powell, Rice, etc. were to be asked point blank at press conferences to explain why exit polls are accurate in the Ukraine but not the U.S, things might start to happen.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 02:55 AM
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7. Ya the people aren't fooled at all!!! The Party is over!!!
The Bush regime has not really convinced the people!!!

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talk hard Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 03:27 AM
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8. We are indeed in Bizarroland
How can anyone in authority keep a straight face? Calling the Ukraine's election fraudulent. Are you freakin' kidding me?

What the hell do they think came down here in the good ol' US of A?
Since when was exiting polling a spurious finding? I'll tell you when. It started in 2000 in Florida. Florida was called for Gore in 2000 because he WON!!!!

And then in 2002, the VNS was conveniently "unavailable" to do exit polling. That's when about 5-6 Senate seats were miraculously won by Republicans in 15+ overnight swings; for instance, the day before the Democrat was 8 points ahead and the next day the Republican won by 7 points. BS. Crappolla. Hello?

Anybody smell this cuz it reeks!!!!

Bush didn't freakin' win this election and certainly not by 3.5 million votes. Pahleeezeee! When is somebody going to call bullshit!!!

MY HEAD IS GOING TO EXPLODE!!!
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