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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:09 AM
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Abu Ghraib-style torture was used on us, say German army conscripts
The Independent
By Tony Paterson in Berlin
26 November 2004


German army conscripts broke their silence yesterday over a scandal of widespread physical abuse of soldiers at a military base, and told how they were bound, beaten and subjected to electric shocks by instructors in staged hostage-taking exercises this year.

The scandal, which has provoked comparisons with the torture of Iraqi detainees at the US Army's Abu Ghraib prison, is being investigated by state prosecutors and 16 NCOs have been suspended, although no victim had been prepared to speak out in public.

But yesterday, two soldiers said they were among 80 conscripts subjected to systematic maltreatment at the German army's Coesfeld base near Münster between July and September last year. They told Bild newspaper they were abused during regular hostage-taking exercises in which they were hooded and beaten.

One soldier, identified as Sven G, told Bild he was in a group of 12 recruits on a 20km night march. "Suddenly we were grabbed by masked men who pulled sacks over our heads and bound our limbs," he said. "We had no chance to defend ourselves."

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=586808
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:13 AM
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1. Wow! Germany is doing Counter-US methods training!
They must not believe that Rummy is going to pull the plug on Old Europe.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 11:29 AM
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2. All things Considered did an exlusive story this week on
abu ghraib tactic being used in american prisons on suspected terrorists.
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nascarblue Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 06:52 PM
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3. Lawyers Need You To Sign Petition For Rumsfeld War Crime Trails
We are asking the German prosecutor to launch an investigation since the U.S. government is unwilling to open an independent investigation into the responsibility of these officials for war crimes, and since the U.S. has refused to join the International Criminal Court, CCR and the Iraqi victims have brought this complaint in Germany as a court of last resort. Several of the defendants are stationed in Germany.

Defendants include Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, former CIA Director George Tenet, Lt. General Ricardo S. Sanchez, Major-General Walter Wojdakowski, Brig.-General Janis Karpinski, Lt.-Colonel Jerry L. Phillabaum, Colonel Thomas M. Pappas, Lt.-Colonel Stephen L. Jordan, Major-General Geoffrey Miller, and Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Stephen Cambone.

German law allows German courts to prosecute for killing, torture, cruel and inhumane treatment, forcible transfers and sexual coercion such as occurred at Abu Ghraib. The world has seen the photographs and read the leaked “torture memos” – we are doing what is necessary when other systems of justice have failed and seeking to hold officials up the chain of command responsible for the shameful abuses that occurred.

Please join our effort! The German Prosecutor has discretion to decide whether to initiate an investigation. It is critical that he hear from you so he knows that people around the world support this effort.


Please go to this link and sign the German petition. I'm new so pass this on!


http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/whatsnew/action/actionAlert2.asp
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