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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 12:53 PM
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Violence Flares Across Sunni Areas
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16111-2004Nov27.html

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In a statement, the American 1st Infantry Division said the insurgents attacked before dawn with AK-47s and rocket-propelled grenades. Local police said three people were wounded among the Iraqi police and National Guard and some insurgents were killed.

The deputy governor of the local province said two of his bodyguards were killed and three wounded when they went to investigate what was happening and were shot by U.S.-led forces. He said the men may have been mistaken for insurgents.

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In Duluiya, a town that lies in the restive Tigris river valley between Baquba and Samarra, a U.S. soldier was killed when rebels detonated a roadside bomb under his tank patrol shortly after dawn on Saturday. The tank was also damaged.

And in Iraq's third largest city Mosul, a U.S. military spokesman said troops had discovered 17 corpses, raising to at least 50 the number of dead found in two weeks.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:42 PM
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1. How about "Violence continues across Iraq"? nt
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GreatAuntK Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 03:38 PM
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2. Poisonous gas in Fallujah?
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/112804X.shtml Unbelievable, and so sickening, I literally feel ill.

The U.S. military has used poison gas and other non-conventional weapons against civilians in Fallujah, eyewitnesses report..

"Poisonous gases have been used in Fallujah," 35-year-old trader from Fallujah Abu Hammad told IPS. "They used everything -- tanks, artillery, infantry, poison gas. Fallujah has been bombed to the ground."

Hammad is from the Julan district of Fallujah where some of the heaviest fighting occurred. Other residents of that area report the use of illegal weapons.

"They used these weird bombs that put up smoke like a mushroom cloud," Abu Sabah, another Fallujah refugee from the Julan area told IPS. "Then small pieces fall from the air with long tails of smoke behind them."

He said pieces of these bombs exploded into large fires that burnt the skin even when water was thrown on the burns. Phosphorous weapons as well as napalm are known to cause such effects. "People suffered so much from these," he said.

Macabre accounts of killing of civilians are emerging through the cordon U.S. forces are still maintaining around Fallujah.

"Doctors in Fallujah are reporting to me that there are patients in the hospital there who were forced out by the Americans," said Mehdi Abdulla, a 33-year-old ambulance driver at a hospital in Baghdad. "Some doctors there told me they had a major operation going, but the soldiers took the doctors away and left the patient to die."

Kassem Mohammed Ahmed who escaped from Fallujah a little over a week ago told IPS he witnessed many atrocities committed by U.S. soldiers in the city.

"I watched them roll over wounded people in the street with tanks," he said. "This happened so many times."

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 03:55 PM
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3. I know what you mean...
about feeling ill.
I feel so helpless and sad about what is
happening and so angry that it is being
done with my tax dollars and in my name.
I am sickened by the people who blindly
support this war and the evil men who are
perpetuating it. How did we become such
a heartless nation of fools?
I know there are good people in this country,
but how can there be so many vicious ones along side the
good ones- it is so divided, so black and white.
BHN
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:11 AM
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4. Ill, angry, sad, but not helpless
Every time I read another one of these accounts, it only makes me more determined. The military runs on the US economy. If anyone needs another reason to quit spending, this should be it.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:16 AM
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6. No offense but
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 07:20 AM by Carolab
every time one of us uses the phrase "with my tax dollars", I keep wondering why we don't just launch a mass NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION movement.

The Federal Reserve Bank is a private bank that is unconstitutional, anyway, and what we are doing is paying interest on heavy, heavy debt that is basically run up cost-free by wealthy industrialists and bankers here and abroad. The fact is that the higher the deficit, the more interest WE pay, so it's no big deal to THEM. It just puts us into greater servitude, and generations to come. This is what they have done to "own" other countries--loaned them massive amounts of money they couldn't pay back and then forced them to become slaves to empire.

Our constitution expressly states that only Congress is to issue currency. 23 states never even ratified the act to create the FED. Congresspeople have for decades gone along with the program because they get bribed/threatened to do so.

Want to unleash the chains that bind us? Abolish the FED and stop paying dividends to imperialists in the form of "interest" on their loans!
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:28 AM
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7. Carolab you have
hit the nail on the head. No taxation without representation is a resurgent call we should have been yelling many years ago. The middle class has been disenfranchised from their government for a long time. it is indeed long over due that we come to realize as the early colonists did, that our government is not representative of the true majority of tax paying citizens in this country.

History DOES always repeat itself.But, the questions is, did you learn from the first experience, or did you simply forget?:think:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:03 AM
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5. It would be funny if it wasn't pathetic
"The deputy governor of the local province said two of his bodyguards were killed and three wounded when they went to investigate what was happening and were shot by U.S.-led forces."
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