ABC: Bush's Speech on Iraq Gets Mixed Reaction

[RamboLiberal]

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20030908_207.html

Master Sgt. Franklin Brown cheered President Bush's call for a multinational force in Iraq. He applauded Bush's plan to seek $87 billion to fight terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The one thing that disappointed Brown about Bush's national address Sunday was the president's failure to say when his 22-year-old son and other U.S. troops might be finished in Iraq.

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Unlike Brown, Austin Swint found little to cheer about in Bush's speech.

Swint, 32, a bar manager from San Diego, gasped aloud when Bush said he would ask Congress for more military funding. He said the rebuilding effort was taking money away from education and other domestic priorities.

"It's just too much (money)," said Swint, who voted for Bush in 2000. "We are not the world's policemen. We don't need to rebuild Iraq. We just need to put them in the right direction."

[ixion]

1. I wonder how many people who voted for * are kicking themselves

these days. After lying about his intentions concerning nation building, etc... the people who actually bought into the compassionate conservative schtick, they have to be feeling betrayed.

[Hawkeye-X]

2. Hmm.. wonder if the landscape of the conservatives in San Diego

will feel the same way?

Hopefully it'll throw every single goddamn Repukes on the street in 2004 and put the Dems back in its place.

Hawkeye-X

[Sticky]

4. Peter Jennings On Larry King Live tonight

I hope he doesn't hold back. Jennings, Terry Moran and Ted Koppel have been asking some tough questions lately.

[Sideways]

7. Gawd Has San Diego Changed Or What?

I went to Mission Bay High in Pacific Beach in the late 70's. San Diego was just embarking on its full frontal Repuke assault then. The quaint hippy town of Ocean Beach was a prime building ground for developers. I had a history teacher Harry Waddle (yes that was his name!) try to explain how all the low life surfers should just leave and give the developers the right of way to build their $100,000 condos (price at the time). Because business had the best and RIGHT ideas.

I told him he was a pathetic asshole lacking in empathy right in front of the class. I got sent to the office of course no big deal.

But the galling thing was that at our class 10 year reunion fucking Harry (as an organizer...yeah right) was there trying to grope. He cornered me at one point and said it was sad that someone with my looks should even have to use my brain. "My legs said it all" was how he put it.

He got a full G&T in the face.

San Diego has gone the way of Harry Waddle I'm afraid.

[bahrbearian]

14. What is a G&T ?

[Richardo]

16. I'm thinking "gin and tonic"

although I must admit I was trying to think of some juicier meanings for the acronym. :evilgrin:

[Sideways]

17. Gin & Tonic

eom

[Wickerman]

3. If the spin today is "mixed", that is the death knell

By Friday it will be the speech that killed his presidency. I don't think its wishful thinking. I believe, from past experience, that any initial public opinion waiver on a speech usually winds up casting the whole thing into the ash can end of week. A well-recieved sppech usually puts Bush into Reagon-like communication skills by end of week. A weak speech, as this one, should tip over the already listing boat.

It would also appear he has closed the door to any near future use of US based "terra" alerts. Can't use an Orange alert to distract people anymore since we have isolated the "terraists" in Iraq. What a clown, what a clownish administration. A terror attack at this point would also finish him off.

[Hawkeye-X]

5. It will make people yell BULLSHIT

on the next terra alert.

Uh oh.. here comes the Orange Alert....


BULLSHIT

Hawkeye-X

[PROGRESSIVE1]

6. Orange Alert??????

Maybe it will be a RED ALERT if the ship keeps on sinking!

God Help Us All!!!

[hadrons]

8. hate to say it, but Master Sgt. Franklin Brown

must be a real chum if he's holding out any hope for this President; hopefully his son won't pay for their stupidity

[underpants]

9. Mixed:some say it was "bullsh*t" some say he is "full of sh*t"...

and some call him "sh*t head".

[grytpype]

10. Failure is inevitable = quit now.

America should pull out of Iraq as soon as possible because failure is inevitable.

Westernizing Iraq will take hundreds of thousands of troops, I've heard estimates as high as 500,000. We won't have that many even under the most optimistic scenerios. We can't even maintain our current, inadequate troop levels beyond next Spring.

So forget about "staying the course and getting the job done." The job is and was impossible. Bush and the PNACians were morons to think otherwise. Not one more American life or American dollar should be spent on their fantasies of empire.

[saskatoon]

12. How right you are

Remember Kipling's poem:

Now it is not good for the Christian’s health to hustle the Aryan brown,
For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”
That says it all.

[Wwagsthedog]

13. Didn't know...

... chimpy boy's epitaph had already been written. Thanks for the poem.

[seventhson]

19. Thanks Saska... Source?

It's a keeper, but a source would be great

[cspiguy]

11. so did the results of his "election" in Florida...

snore.

[Parche]

15. 87 billion

Is a lot of money that could help the US, you remember the US dont
you bush? We are the strongest country on earth, yet we still
have homeless, starving children, our infrastructure, roads and
bridges are crumbling?
Do I pay my taxes for the people of Iraq?

[joeybee12]

18. We DO need to pay to rebuild Iraq!

We broke it, we bought it. Does anyone realize how much more many people and countries hate us for leveling this country for no Goddamn reason? If we are ever to even begin to fight the war on terror (Bush is fighting a war FOR terror) we need to follow through on our promises. Yes, the money could be better spent elsewhere, but Dumbo hasn't given us a choice because of his evil, filthy ways!