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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:27 AM
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Bush High Court Choice Should Back Abortion Rights, Poll Shows
Nov. 29 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. President George W. Bush's nominee for the next Supreme Court vacancy should be willing to uphold the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that guaranteed abortion rights, according to a majority of Americans in an Ipsos-Public Affairs poll for the Associated Press.

Fifty-nine percent said Bush should choose a supporter of Roe v. Wade, while 31 percent said they want a nominee who will try to overturn the decision, according to the poll. Support for Roe v. Wade was seen among both men and women, across most age and income groups, and in urban, suburban and rural areas, AP said.

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=aR8KuF8.NIiE&refer=home
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:33 AM
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1. 59%? Why, that's just a focus group.
Who cares what they think?
:crazy:

Seriously, 59 to 31 sounds closer to what I thought the election numbers would be. But it's too early in the a.m. and I can't find my tinfoil hat anywhere.

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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:37 AM
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2. are these people delusional?
They voted for him, don't they know why he is?
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 08:02 AM
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4. One issue voters
"Wait a second, I didn't vote for Bush so women would lose the right to choose..."
Guess what, sparky, it's a package deal, if you vote for Bush, for whatever reason, he gets to ram his whole agenda down you throat.
Enjoy, stupid.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 08:13 AM
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5. Bingo!
Freaking idiotic "one issue voters"

tax cuts
tough on terrorists (or other brown people.... whatever!)
not a flip-flopper
don't like to see boys kissing

Too bad policy is what really matters....
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 09:02 AM
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10. bush; biggest flip flopper EVER, including on ABORTION & GAY MARRIAGE
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 09:03 AM by LynnTheDem
BUSH SUPPORTS A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE... "Bush said he...favors leaving up to a woman and her doctor the abortion question."

-The Nation, 6/15/00, quoting the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal, 5/78

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20000703&s=corn

...BUSH OPPOSES A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE "I am pro-life."
-Governor Bush, 10/3/00

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:vykF9wM9vNQJ:www.debates.org/pages/trans2000a.html+%22I+am+pro-life.%22+Governor+bush+2000&hl=en

BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do what they want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're trying to get me into."
-Gov. George W. Bush on Gay Marriage, Larry King Live, 2/15/00

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0002/15/lkl.00.html

...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution defining and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as husband and wife."
-President Bush, 2/24/04

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/BushTranscriptConstAmendMarriage.html

So there is some excuse for the deep & total ignorance of the bushbots...but still, how come WE know more about THEIR idiot than they do? HAS to be just natural ignorance of rightwingnuttery.
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:24 PM
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15. Thanks! That is some good stuff
I never knew Bush was pro choice at one point. In fact he probably still is, but needs a certain block to vote for him.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:50 PM
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23. Boy George doesn't really care about social issues.
He's all about tax cuts for those in his income bracket & wars of personal vengeance.

I can't wait till the mouth-breathing Bible-thumpers find out how badly they were played. Moral values, my ass!
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 03:13 PM
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25. Self-delete
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 03:17 PM by AngryOldDem
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:44 PM
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17. A Lot of them Probably Thought They Voted for Kerry
Voting a straight Democratic ticket would normally be assumed to
do that.
Pressing the "KERRY" button would normally be assumed to do that.
In polling various locations all across the country, that wasn't happening.
If the voter didn't go back to check all his votes, chalk up another Bush vote.

This could have cost us millions of votes, even before they hack
the central tabulators.

Perhaps the magnitude of the electoral fraud is even greater than we thnk.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:31 PM
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19. Thats the difference between republicanism and democracy.
We've so far benefited from the de facto practice of electing people who've assumed a public service role, adopting majoritarian goals but with ideological preferences in the approaches taken. Until the Fascist takeover of the Republican Party, even Republican Presidents were guided by the will of the majority on an issue-by-issue basis.

With the advent of the "might makes right" crypto-fascists, they achieve (s)election based upon (mis)representations against a very narrow set of issues and then govern in a manner that pushes minority goals. When the 'democratic principles' are removed from the consciousness of elected officials, we're left with populist dictators: regimes 'elected' to act in a totalitarian fashion.

It makes little difference whether the 'front man' is changed every four years as long as the 'power behind the throne' is unchanged and ignores the majoritarian interests and perspectives.
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WildClarySage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 07:41 AM
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3. Hell, for * that's a mandate for anti-choice appointments
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 08:33 AM
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6. Do people suddenly change their minds?
I really don't get it. They vote for Bush, and then say, "wait, we don't support his agenda." It's not just abortion, it's everything he does: tax cuts, unilateral war, etc. The polls show people are against this stuff, yet they vote for him. Are all these people really this fucking stupid? Are they complete fucking morons? They vote for a guy when they hate his agenda? :shrug: :puke:
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 09:20 AM
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11. Maybe they didn't vote for the guy.
A lot of eligible Americans still aren't even registered. The non-voters show up in these polls, I think.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:40 AM
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13. True, but that's their fault, too.
I blame non-voters almost as much as I blame Bush voters.
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Rush1184 Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 09:46 AM
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34. Not all of us non-voters are bad people...
I for one was out of the country at university and my absentee ballot never showed up...
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:59 AM
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28. Yeah, but, but, but, but,but, but, but, but.
Bush is better looking than Kerry. At least when he's not in debate mode with a hidden microphone and white drool hanging off the side of his mouth.
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CookieD Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 08:33 AM
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7. Bush not listening, poll shows. n/t
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 08:43 AM
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8. bush supporters don't have a clue what bush's stance is on anything
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 08:46 AM by LynnTheDem
bush supporters still dumb as frigging dirt

http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/html/new_10_21_04.html



Morans.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 09:41 AM
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12. Thanks for the reminder
about this study.

I didn't have time to read it closely when it was released.

Having read it now, I am even more perplexed as to why we're seeking to change the Democratic party.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 08:52 AM
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9. It's been said before and I'll say it again.
These idiots, who voted for Bush, are due for a big reality check.
When they wake up one day and find all of their rights are down the drain, I plan to rub it in their f*cking faces...
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:05 PM
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14. Bush voters are idiots!
How can anyone vote for * and think for one second that Roe v. Wade will not be overturned?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:31 PM
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16. That's the word I was searching for...
IDIOTS

You know what? This one poll, all by itself, is almost enough reason to doubt the election results. Idiots!
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:26 PM
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31. I agree
Iv read so many polls that favor the Democratic party.There is NO WAY AWOL chimp devilincarnate won this election.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:48 PM
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18. Like Dubya Gives A Flip
He doesn't care what the people want. He's a leader and does what he thinks is right. Unless what he thinks is right is what he thinks the people want. Then he claims to have a mandate.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:40 PM
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20. keep this kicked...
for our "pro-life dems" who keep telling us we can win by abandoning women's reproductive rights!
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:19 PM
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21. More evidence that U.S. citizens are morons
They vote for a guy they KNOW is against abortion rights, then tell him not to harm abortion rights. Idiots.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:44 PM
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22. I'm still not convinced the majority voted for him...
But how can we know that without a paper trail?
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 02:59 PM
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24. Whoops!
Then you friggin idiots voted for the wrong candidate or didn't vote at all. Well done!
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 10:40 PM
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26. kick
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 08:26 AM
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27. kick for "pro-life Dems"
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slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 06:31 PM
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32. Don't you mean pro-life "dems"?
The position of the quotes is crucial.




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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 07:49 AM
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33. yes, thanks, good catch!
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StopThief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:10 AM
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29. Ironically. . . 59% of respondents also. . .
did not know that Rehnquist was Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 09:41 AM
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30. Who gives a diddle-dee damn what polls, what we the people say
for we the people have given our mandate, we the people have entrusted in one man, a man who follows only God's devine will, the very economic life of this Republic, possibly even the existence of this nation as a Republic?
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