9/11 commissioner: 'Terrorists will be planning another attack'

[maddezmom]

Panelists to lobby Cheney for passage of intelligence reform bill
From Ed Henry
CNN Washington Bureau
Tuesday, November 30, 2004 Posted: 11:07 AM EST (1607 GMT)



Mary Fetchit, whose son was killed in the 9/11 attacks, says the time for debate is over.


SPECIAL REPORT

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In an effort to break a legislative deadlock, Vice President Cheney will meet with former 9/11 commission co-chairs Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton Tuesday afternoon.

Kean and Hamilton have launched a last-ditch lobbying blitz to pass legislation that would create a new director of national intelligence. They are warning of dire consequences if the bill is not passed next week when Congress returns to session.

"You go back to the drawing board, start all over again," Hamilton said on CNN's "American Morning." After this brief session, Congress will adjourn until January.

A delay at this point would be six to eight months long, Hamilton said, "all the time the terrorists will be planning another attack and we will be less secure."

more: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/30/congress.intelligence/

[elepet]

1. What are the issues involved in the delay?

and what is the voting lineup?

[maddezmom]

2. immigration reform and who holds the purse strings over intelligence

not sure, but I think if it went to the floor it would pass.

[primavera]

5. That's about the size of it

The Senate version followed the commission's original recommendations; the House version decided to add a bunch of nazi detension and elimination of due process provisions for immigrants which the 9/11 commission did not mandate. That's what's holding things up. If House repukes would go along with the commission's recommendations, it would have passed ages ago.

[Just Me]

3. Delegation of power and the purse,...

,...as usual,...without which an NID would simply be another manipulated manikin.

[springhill]

7. I don't believe anythng these people say......

The investigation was a whitewash, no relevant questions answered. Bush and this commision are working together, you can bet on that.

[NVMojo]

4. of course they know that, right?

[shanti]

6. you can be sure

that there are other issues that have nothing to do with this bill embedded in it that they want passed secretly. they continually do this.

[Old and In the Way]

8. Bush publicly says he's for the bill.

But a few Republicans in Congress don't want to have the Intel power concentrated outside the Executive branch. Remember when Bush wanted to extend the 9/11 commission deadline, but Hastert didn't?

Right.....

[bunny planet]

11. I remember it differently, correct me if I'm wrong.

I thought Bush initially did not want to implement the 9/11 commission's requirement to appoint an intelligence czar in the executive branch. The worry for Bush was, that an intelligence chief who was a cabinet official would bring the chain of command too close to him. If the intelligence position was kept the way it was, head of CIA and FBI, they could be blamed as always for any intelligence failures. A cabinet level position would be trickier for them to avoid blame and trickier to control. This is what I recall reading right after the commission gave their report. The R. Congress could just be balking now as a cover. They are really doing what the Preznit wants, trying to delay or change the implementation of the plan recommended by the 9/11 panel.

[Old and In the Way]

14. I think it boils down to Independence of information.

This administration needs to control the flow of information. Ishtook was on Hardball the other night and thinks things are just swell with this power held by the NSC. He used concerns about compromising the Pentagon's WOT, too. How convenient. I think Ishtook was telling us the real story about where Bush is with this issue.

It's all about personal security trumping national security, IMHO.

[bunny planet]

17. Isn't Ishtook the guy who wrote in the clause about Ways and Means

Committee being able to check every American's tax return into the recently passed 3000 page omnibus bill. It was caught before passage and they feigned outrage and promised to take it out. Wonder if they ever did????????:grr: :scared:

[Old and In the Way]

18. Yes, same totalitarian fascist.

[July]

9. But Ashcroft said we're safe from crime and terror!

Ruh-roh.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

10. We're already less safe

the squatter wasn't kicked out.

How much you wanna bet if we have another terrorist attack it'll be in a blue area?

bush better hope to GOD we don't have another one, because THEN his ass will be grass. The first one he got to milk and make it his best day and politically exploit it for all he could.

But a second time?

Watch the fuck out. I'll be shouting it from the rooftops: "SO YOU WERE WORRIED ABOUT **KERRY** BEING IN OFFICE?????"

[nytemare]

12. Over three years have passed

since 9-11, and no Osama. This ticks me off.

[chuckrocks]

13. BETTER NOT!

commander bunny pants STILL has that bullhorn, and they'll hear him, they'll hear him good!

[ally_sc]

15. could it be that bush was responsible for 9/11

and that he would want certain things passed through and others not. hey if he wsn't directly responsible then that memo was on condi's desk...it is just another sad situation where somebody is going to end up dropping the ball, again!

[eowyn_of_rohan]

16. Many thought and think so

As I watched the 1st tower crumble on 9-11 I said IT'S BUSH!

Anyway, I have been wondering if there would be another terror attack to make us all shut up about the stolen election. Hope to God it doesn't happen.

[leesa]

19. How about we find out who REALLY did 9-11. Look for evidence in

Cheney's lair. This is just an excuse to narrow the power in Washington and an excuse for dictatorial power. I do not want these bogus "fixes" enacted. I want a REAL 9-11 investigation and the appropriate criminals charged.

[flying_blind]

20. Tom Kean - one of the coverup artists

Kissinger's replacement (to head the 9/11 commission), retired New Jersey Governor Thomas Kean, was a "safe pair of hands," we were assured by the professional assurers in the mainstream media. The fact that he'd been out of public life for years--and that he hadn't collaborated in the deaths of tens of thousands of Cambodians, Chileans and East Timorese--certainly made him less controversial than his predecessor, although to be fair, Kissinger's expertise in mass murder surely would have given the panel some unique insights into the terrorist atrocity.

But now it seems that Kean might possess some unique insights of his own. Fortune Magazine reports this week that both Kean and Bush share an unusually well-placed business partner: one Khalid bin Mahfouz -- perhaps better known as "Osama bin Laden's bagman" or even "Osama bin Laden's brother-in-law."

Kean, like so many worthies, followed the revolving door out of public service into lucrative sweetheart deals and well-wadded sinecures on corporate boards. One of these, of course, is an oil company--pretty much a requirement for White House work these days. (Or as the sign says on the Oval Office door: "If your rigs ain't rockin', don't come a-knockin'!") Kean is a director of Amerada Hess, an oil giant married up to Saudi Arabia's Delta Oil in a venture to pump black gold in Azerbaijan. (The partnership is incorporated in a secretive offshore "tax haven," natch. You can't expect a worthy like Kean to pay taxes like some grubby wage slave.)

One of Delta's biggest backers is the aforesaid Mahfouz, a Saudi wheeler-dealer who has bankrolled some of most dubious players on the world scene: Abu Nidal, Manuel Noreiga, Saddam Hussein and George W. Bush.
http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd01312003.html

[Hephaistos]

21. Philosophical question

Terrorists will be planning another attack

If they were not, in fact, planning another attack, would they still be terrorists? :silly: