Poll: Support for Calif. Recall Slipping

[UpInArms]

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Politics/ap20030908_2271.html

Support for the recall of Gov. Gray Davis is slipping, a new poll says, while Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante has opened a slim lead over Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The Field Poll, set for release Tuesday, found that 55 percent of likely voters support the recall, down from 58 percent in an August poll.

Also, Bustamante and Schwarzenegger a month ago were about even, but Bustamante has now opened a small lead 30 percent to the actor's 25 percent, according to the poll.

State Sen. Tom McClintock, the leading conservative in the race, has strengthened his third-place position, receiving 13 percent, a gain of four points in recent weeks.

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[arcane1]

1. that's cuz I'm out there telling it like it is!

and many more Californians are too!

:toast:


I've been HAMMERING the 'no on the recall' message to everyone unfortunate enough to get me started, lol. What surprises me is the number of people who are unaware of Issa's role and funding for the recall, many actually think it was a grass-roots effort!

[MoonRiver]

9. THANK YOU for your efforts to expose the truth about this latest

ignoble effort of the rightwing maniacs to usurp our Constitution and destroy the USofA. :thumbsup:

[ahimsa]

16. Arnie #1 on San Diego ballot - Bustamante #130

How lucky is that? Anyone seen a ballot elsewhere in California yet?

:-(

[Trajan]

19. San Diego will vote Arnold anyways ...

Nothing lost there ....

[haele]

22. Depends on where you are in San Diego County -

In our district at least, he's three up from the bottom at 177. Bill Simon is #2, BTW. And for some reason, there's also an "S.Issa" - an "Engineer" running as a repuke. Is this our buddy Darryl, or a close relative?

Interesting enough, Cruz Bustamonte is only 6 names above Schwartznegger's on the last page - and Arianna is above his by about the same, close to the top on that page.

And hey, SD county is doing the punch cards. None of those modern high-tech bells and whistles for this good, old fashioned, conservative area...

So, what's your opinions about the two propositions that are piggybacking on this fiasco?
Ward Connerly's racial whitewashing prop 54 is up, but this Prop 53 for funding state and local non-educational facility based infrastructure improvements is interesting - could help a great deal with sagging employment as well as easing development problems. However, it does put added burden on state spending (like most of our budget...) and I think brings up the need to re-evaluate and possibly modify Prop 13 to increase revenues without hurting homeowners, small businesses, and renters.

Did you also read the Governer's rebuttle to the recall at the end of the sample? (before all the ads?)

Way to go, Gray! Finally telling it as it really is!

Haele

[Zhade]

26. The rebuttal KICKS ASS.

Good for Davis. He may not be perfect, but dammit, he was legally elected, only to be targeted by the fascist traitors in the White House.

[Zhade]

25. Got one right here. Santa Monica, 30th District (Waxman is my Rep!)

The highlights (these mark my comments):

#33: Arianna Huffington (saw-the-light progressive)
#43: Cruz Bustamnte (Lt. Gov, GOP-alleged Mexican 'terrorist')
#49: Arnold Schwarzenegger (Nazi-friendly, clueless egg-magnet)
#58: Bill Simon (loser, dropout)
#84: Mary Carey (adult film 'star', but nice and cute)
#85: Gary Coleman (famed angry 'little person')
#123: Larry Flynt (nasty-rag publisher, brave 1st Amendment advocate)
#174: Tom McClintock (Republican state senator, apparently)

Last listed candidate is #179: Van Vo (politically ambitious radio producer with big dreams)

[Cronus Protagonist]

23. I wear my FUCK ARNOLD button everywhere

No one so far seems the slightest bit offended. My guess is that he's not seen as a serious candidate or people just don't care about the recall.



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[sandnsea]

30. Oh good for you!

I hope these statistics get all over the place because it's sure a different story then 'only 25% support Grey Davis' that I've always heard. It sounds like the campaign might need a little note about your findings too, they may think everybody knows about Issa. Maybe they should run ads or something.

:toast:

[gratuitous]

2. And face facts

The recall can't move up in the polls, simply by virtue of its static, negative nature. What are the Pukes going to do for a campaign? "We urge you to vote to subvert your own electoral system, and do the work for us because the Supreme Court isn't going to step in this time"?

The more Davis and Bustamante get out in public and whomp away at this ill-considered piece of crap, the less support it will have.

[Democat]

3. Good job California

No recall, yes Cruz!

[cherryperry]

4. Due to the fact that so many counties are finding

they really DON'T have enough time to put everything together and due to the fact that the ACLU had already petitioned for a delay and therefore have been proven correct, I'm beginning to wonder if the recall will even be upheld. If it turns out so haphazardly as it's beginning to seem, I'm wondering if the ACLU will end up having the election thrown out. The organizers would be given the choice of re-setting it for March, as originally requested, or to drop the mess.

Maybe, maybe not. I'm just sayin' ...


:kick:

[toska]

8. Which side will push for the delay?

The ACLU is pushing, but if the polls aren't looking good, watch for somebody on the right to sue saying the recall's a mess. Then the courts will listen, the recall will get moved to March, one of the repug candidates will drop out, and they'll have around 5 months to unite on one candidate. If it does get delayed, I don't see how Arnold could keep his campaign going for that long.

[Frances]

5. Also the more people learn about Arnold

the worse it is for Arnold. I wouldn't be surprised if Mcclintock (sp?) didn't keep going up in the polls. Of course, that will be good for Bustamante. Also, if people think that Bustamante will be the governor if the recall doesn't work, won't those who are for the recall be inclined to stay home?

No on recall, Yes on Bustamante

[DavidDvorkin]

6. I'm confused.

Didn't the previous Field poll show only 50% support for the recall, not 58%? And Bustamente with a 12% lead, or thereabouts over Schwarzenegger?

Or am I thinking of some other, non-Field, poll?

[DemPopulist]

7. That was LA Times

:kick:

[DavidDvorkin]

13. Ah, thanks, DemPopulist.

Great. Now I can feel encouraged.

[IndianaGreen]

10. If the Republicans wanted Davis out...

they sure as hell don't want him replaced with Bustamante.

Hang it up boys!

[wtmusic]

11. That's the problem

we'll be more than happy to deliver them!

[dolstein]

14. But Bustamente has endorsed Joe Lieberman!

Isn't Joe Lieberman a Republican? Doesn't that make Bustamente a Republican too?

[David__77]

24. As someone leaning in Dean's direction, I would welcome Lieberman.

I think all the candidates need to come to this state to fight the recall and support Davis and Bustamante. I think you'll find a lot of support for that, some grumbling notwithstanding. The state party, labor and other groups are pretty unified.

[sonias]

12. good news indeed

We know the people of California aren't stupid. They may be angry but once they take time to analyze things and the more dirt on Arnie that surfaces, it just doesn't make sense. I think the Latino vote sure wasn't fooled by assman (Arnold) especially when they heard that Pete Wilson is one of his front men. You have the great women of CA exposing Arnold for being disrespectful of women and he can't spin that. Feinstein is backing Davis and the Democratic presidential candidates came out and supported him too. Plus bu$h poll numbers are sinking hard and they know he's behind the whole fiasco, so why reward him.

I have faith that CA will do the right thing and vote no on the recall.

Sonia

[Code_Name_D]

15. And now we find Arnold used the word "nigger"

a few more times than Bushtemante. Opps. Intresting how the became so silent on that nigger charge, isn't it.

[Skittles]

17. OMG, the WAR *AND* the RECALL are FALTERING

LOOK OUT FOR BRAND NEW TERRORIST ALERTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AP]

18. They don't define Arnold as conservative? What gentle spin.

Man, the media sucks.

[Terwilliger]

21. notice, they identified AHH-nold as "Republican"

Davis nor Bustamante got "Democrat"

[Terwilliger]

20. SLIM?!?!?!?

that is more media bullshit.....30% to 25% is way over the margin of error...its a substantial lead

[Democat]

27. Bush will be a "popular" president even when he's at 15%

It's the "liberal media".

[Julien Sorel]

29. Not exactly

The poll, conducted over a five-day period ending Sunday, was drawn from telephone interviews with 505 likely voters, and has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.

Of course, the longer this goes on, the more the freshness of Arnold's campaign wears off, and the more like just another politician he looks. But it's still anyone's race, barring a major blunder by Arnold.

[SoCalDem]

28. If the recall gets voted down, the Democratic party should file suit

against Issa & the RNC for malicious mischief.. The people will have spoken, and if it goes down to defeat, then there was never a reason for it in the first place.. It will have cost us money that we could not afford, and for what??

The statute needs retooling as well.. If it is to remain an option, the signature collection number should be at least 2/3 of the number of actual vote count .. So if 8 million votes were cast in the regular election, the party wanting the recall should have to collect 2/3 of that 8 million.. They should NOT be allowed to get some ridiculously low number to aim for..

a few hundred thousand people whould not be allowed to negate a legitimate election..

[jos]

31. Arnold seems stuck at 25%

But if Uebberoth pulls out, he could easily go over 30%.