MSNBC Breaking: Ex-N.Y. police comm. Bernard Kerik new Homeland Sec. chief

[mountebank]

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[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

1. See! Sucking the right units...

Will get you backstage! :eyes:

[Bleacher Creature]

16. It's amazing how a statement like that can be . . .

so crass on one hand, and so ridiculously true on the other.

I couldn't have said it any better myself.

[Sara Beverley]

67. Does anyone in this bush administration have to actually be qualified for

the post to which Bush appoints them?

This man's claim to fame is that he was there during 9/11 just like Guiliani and Bush..."being there." Would any other people under the same circumstances have done any less? Maybe some would have done more but geeezzzzuwhiz, the country keeps on giving acclaim to these people like they really did something extraordinary. Guiliani and Bush walked the sites with a megaphone. Bush gave a Rambo statement and then felt obligated to live up to the macho statement that got us to where we are in both Afghanistan (where our puppet can hardly show his face outside the secure area without our military security and where our soldiers continue to be picked off) and Iraq, where the US suddenly has become the biggest fascist state of the new century.

So Bush appoints this biggest ass kissers to posts they are ill quipped to handle, just as he is unqualified to be President. But none of this seems to matter to Americans as long as Bush gives them permission to hate unbounded.

[David Dunham]

2. He's not the brightest bulb.

[candy]

3. Wow----but no surprise,he's been mentioned a lot. n/t

[AlCzervik]

4. Unreal!!!!!! the man who stood up for the NYC when they

sodominzing people with lightbulbs and broomsticks!!!! And don't even tell me he and his security company weren't at Abu Garib.

[eileen from OH]

5. Another Joe-mentum moment

that fails to materialize. Well, he can always get a house by the sea with Zell Miller and raise cats.

eileen from OH

[mountebank]

6. I think the RNC needs some Joe-mentum....

Better yet, we could bottle it and sell it as a sedative.

[Kingshakabobo]

12. What's Joe-mentum?

Help me out sister. I must have missed that one. Thanks. :)

[Catch22Dem]

23. From the primaries

Liberman would call it "Joe-mentum" when it looked like he was doing well in the polls.

[Kingshakabobo]

25. Thanks Catch, Was he mentioned for the homeland security job?

Anyway, the guy is a collaborator as far as I'm concerned. I heard him on Hannity last week telling that p.o.s. that Hannity was a true american and patriot.

[Catch22Dem]

37. I don't know, but I'm getting that impression.

Hannity a patriot....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

[Moloch]

41. LOL It never looked like he was going to do well in the polls...

Holy Joe is delusional...

[Catch22Dem]

61. It did at the VERRRRRRY beginning

But that was nothing more than name recognition from 2000.

[jayfish]

7. Hows That Iraqi Police Force Coming Along, Bernie? -NT-

Jay

[blm]

8. That incompetent asshole? The one who "trained' the Iraqi police force?

The one who never FINISHED the job in Iraq?

The one who left an unfinished job in Iraq that was supposed to be so important to peace efforts, but, instead came back to the US to pimp 9-11 for Bush's campaign?

They guy is a total fuck-up who has proved himself to be competent at ONE task...kissing Bush's ass.

[pk_du]

14. Yup - quit NYPD 3 months after Sept 11th...then quit after 3 mths

in Iraq after signing up for 6 Mths.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/nyc-ker1202,0,5202830.story?coll=ny-top-span-headlines


Sounds like a guy who wont last more than a year in the job to me.

[Princess Turandot]

54. He quit because there was a new mayor. Bloomberg had

already indicated that he was bringing Ray Kelly back. He wasn't police commissioner for most of Giuliani's terms: that was Howard Safire.

[leesa]

69. How curious! Do you suppose the guy had some role in 9-11?

[belle]

55. Exactly! I mean, what else matters?

[high density]

9. Sounds about right.

I'm not surprised with this announcement since Bush loves to surround himself with incompetent people.

[pk_du]

10. Here's the link

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6639853/

[maddezmom]

11. The Homeland takes on a whole new meaning

Yikes...we're screwed. :(

[belle]

56. Possibly no more so than before. Not that that's much comfort...

But yes, incompetent butt-kissing does seem to be the order of the day. classic narcissism.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

13. I'm not surprised.

He meets all the criteria for this administration. Brown nosed, butt sucking, incompetent yes man.

As an added bonus does not have the first clue about how to run a huge bureaucratic office. This should be interesting to watch.

[Kingshakabobo]

26. Ding ding ding...you forgot the bonus of having 9/11 blood smeared on him.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

31. But I got the booby prize!

He just became Homeland Secretary chief.

[jbfam4]

28. He meets all the criteria for this administration.

Totally agree. Just like others in this asministration who have failed at their former jobs........they get better ones.

No wonder any business * ran failed.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

32. If I ran my business like he does our country I would go under

What I can't understand is how he keeps the Country floating, you'd think it would be sinking like a stone... oh, never mind.

[Eurobabe]

15. what will he change the color code to? i'm skeered

[KDLarsen]

30. Looking at my Firefox Extension..

.. I can see that we're currently at Yellow: "Scared" :D

[PopSixSquish]

52. Please Tell Me That Your Graphic is a Button That's Actually For Sale

I must have it.

Sorry, you may return to your regularly scheduled thread.

[belle]

57. I think he'll be going with a more "earth tones" palette, for winter.

[DS1]

17. And Plungers For All!

Insert Pshopped Statue of Liberty holding a loofa at her side and a plunger high in the air

[Chovexani]

18. Gods preserve us. (n/t)

[qanda]

19. What a stupid choice!

He couldn't protect NYC or Iraq and now he's expected to protect the entire United States of America. I guess incompetence really is a requirement to be a part of the Bush administration.

[belle]

58. It's the Peter Principle President!

[henslee]

20. Major lightweight. Who saw Wes smoke his ass on the Paula Zahn townhall

debate? Wes was awful kind not to wipe the floor with this uninformed mook who looks and acts like he should be selling programs at a yankee game.

[Brundle_Fly]

34. he sure did lots of....

I wouldn't be in a position to answer...

that's not my area of expertice...

I am just a old policeman...

No in my realm of knowledge...

on that town hall.

[jhain]

42. That was wonderful

Ahhhh, the good old days...

Bernie, huh?
Doesn't surprise me one bit.... another cluless , brainless "Body For Bush".

Dii they ever find Bernie's mother's killer?

[Larry in KC]

45. Wes was actually pulling his punches...

Seriously, this guy was so outmanned for the second half of that "Town Hall" that Wes seemed to be going out of his way not to embarrass him too badly. It was a true Commander-in-Chief vs. some random cop (not to criticize cops).

[AG78]

21. He just looks the part

Ridge was a robot. This guy looks like one of those evil guys in movies. Bald, portly, mustache, authoritarian. Just sitting in a dark smoke-filled room, smoking a big cigar, picking who and who doesn't go to jail.

[lovuian]

22. Bernie gets around!!!

Welcome to Homeland Security!!!

[Just Me]

24. I thought the meritorious succeeded,...

,...that was when I was young.

Now,...I see that it's not what you know, how talented you are, how hard-working and law-abiding and "Christian" you are which increases the possibilities of your success. Now, I know American "success" is based upon who you know,...at least 90% of the time.

Enjoy reality.

BUT,...embrace and fight for the possibilities. The "possibilities" (eg hopes) passionately IMPOSED by the oppressed of 20th C. America are what has made this country so much greater today. There are those who are jealous of and seek to exploit such accomplishments for themselves in order to serve their selfishness and stinginess and greed for power and recognition. They cannot.

One of the greatest inspiration of these times that we live in is that,...we not only have the power to change,...but, now, we have the power to record HUMAN HISTORY. The dictatorship over human history has ended (both "religious" and "moral", although I am a complete advocate for the incredible human spirit).

"Democracy" is power,...a power of the people that NO leader in this world truly embraces. A power that every leader will now fight to maintain his/her own hold on this world.

[Ducks In A Row]

27. Damn, I wanted that job!

[karlrschneider]

29. And so it goes...yet another wingnut moron bastard joins the crime cabal.

:grr: :eyes:

[Stinky The Clown]

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[Raenelle]

40. Skinhead might be more appropriate in this particular instance.

[DoYouEverWonder]

35. Mmm, seems Bernie and W

might be seeing more of each other. They make such a cute couple. :puke:

[Ice4Clark]

48. Wonder where Bernie's other hand is? Perhaps it's up

W's arse?

[Catchawave]

36. On the upside....

...he isn't a professional politician? I can't wait for those press conferences!

[belle]

59. Like there'll be any.

[Carni]

38. Oh I HATE that guy! Bleccckkk!

And he did such a fabulous job of clearing out that south tower on Sept 11th didn't he? NOT!

Jesus Christ, where does the stupidity and corruption of this bush regime end!?!?!

[bklyncowgirl]

39. Aw c'mon guys he did a great job training the Iraqi police.

Not.

Actually I think he praised Bush's leadership with the appropriate level of ridiculously fulsome praise.

It's hard work licking those cowboy boots, damn it.

[Mari333]

43. read this..what a butt kisser....

http://www.greatestjeneration.com/archives/002067.php

[PassingFair]

44. Yuk

I wish I hadn't read that. Yuk

[AlFrankenFan]

46. Um...ok

What did he ever do that qualifies him for that position?

[villagechild]

47. Bush Picks Kerik for Homeland Security Job

Bush Picks Kerik for Homeland Security Job

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush has picked as his homeland security secretary former New York City police commissioner Bernard Kerik . . . Kerik has been a strong Bush supporter and Bush's re-election campaign turned to him to react to charges about homeland security thrown at the president by his Democratic opponent, Sen. John Kerry.

"Kerik spent a lot of time on the campaign trail with Bush and was a real political asset," said Scott Reed, a Republican strategist.

Kerik most recently served as Iraq's interim Minister of Interior and as senior policy adviser for then-U.S. envoy Paul Bremer. In 2001, the Army veteran published a memoir, "The Lost Son: A Life in Pursuit of Justice." http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsN...

[villagechild]

49. In another appointment announced on Thursday

A high school dropout, Bernard Kerik, 49, joined the NYPD in 1986, working as a beat officer in Times Square. He rose through the ranks to become police commissioner in 2000, under then Mayor Rudolph Giuliani. He stepped down at the end of 2001, when the mayor's term of office expired. Last year, he spent time in Iraq, trying to rebuild the country's police force after the defeat of Saddam Hussein.



In another appointment announced on Thursday, Nebraska Governor Mike Johanns has been chosen as the new agriculture secretary. "For someone who grew up on a dairy farm, to be asked by the president of the United States to serve as ag secretary is about as big as it gets," he said, after joining Mr Bush for the announcement at the White House. "After growing up on a dairy farm ... everything in life has seemed easy," he added. Mr Johanns has led trade missions to more than 10 countries, and promoted US farm exports.

. . .


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4064367.stm

[starroute]

50. Mohammed Atta's passport (and more)

I found a bunch of things on Kerik, mostly through Google Groups, and posted them at a thread that didn't go anywhere. Here's the high points:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+arabia+%22Bernard+Kerik+%22&hl=en&lr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=2&as_maxm=8&as_maxy=2004&selm=akqrne%24diq%241%40pencil.math.missouri.edu&rnum=10

Never mind Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik who was handed Atta's passport by someone not named yet, of which Kerik stated "Apparently, it must have fallen into the air just as the crash occurred, surviving the almost 1000 degree heat of the fire, then came across a strong wind to blow it several blocks away."


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+arabia+%22Bernard+Kerik+%22&hl=en&lr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=2&as_maxm=8&as_maxy=2004&selm=kMXPa.15014%24zE.9419%40fe1.columbus.rr.com&rnum=4

Senior police advisers have told the UK government that the law enforcement operation in Iraq is at risk of disintegration unless US forces stop "kicking ass" and take a more conciliatory attitude towards civilians.

Some UK officials are appalled by the language and tactics used by Bernard Kerik, the former New York police commissioner, dubbed the "Baghdad terminator" by local journalists because of his uncompromising style.

"The Americans need to learn that civil policing is not about 'kicking ass', it is about democracy. There are going to be problems if we continue with our different philosophies and different approaches to law enforcement," one UK official said.


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+arabia+%22Bernard+Kerik+%22&start=20&hl=en&lr=&as_drrb=b&as_mind=12&as_minm=5&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=2&as_maxm=8&as_maxy=2004&selm=ec0895b2.0405192053.5efb09ff%40posting.google.com&rnum=22

The former police and fire chiefs who were lionised after the World Trade Center attack came under harsh criticism Tue from the Sept. 11 commission, with one member saying the depts' lack of cooperation was scandalous and "not worthy of the Boy Scouts." Commission members, in NY for an emotional 2-day hearing, focused on how leaders of the 2 depts failed to share info effectively in the early frantic moments after 2 hijacked planes slammed into the World Trade Center.

Former fire commissioner Thomas Von Essen and former police chief Bernard Kerik shot back with infuriated responses to commissioner John Lehman's questions, the strongest of a series of pointed statements from the panel.

"I couldn't disagree with you more strongly," Von Essen replied. "I think it's outrageous that you make a statement like that." Outside the hearing, he called the questioning "despicable."

Families of Sept. 11 victims applauded the tough questioning and shook their heads sadly as the panel enumerated a litany of communication breakdowns between the depts. Family members sporadically mocked and booed Von Essen, Kerik and Richard Sheirer, former Office of Emergency Management commissioner, and they wept earlier in the day as they watched videotape of the buildings collapsing.


He Molests the Dead by Jimmy Breslin
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0307-05.htm

Giuliani then showed appropriate behavior by walking in a parade on Fifth Avenue with his girl friend and all the while his children could sit and watch him on television.

How marvelous! It was appropriate to humiliate his children, and now it is appropriate to molest the dead.

Giuliani also had a flunkey, Bernard Kerik, rush on television and say, so earnestly, that the Bush commerical was appropriate. Kerik was a Giuliani campaign chauffeur who became police commissioner. How marvelous! At the world trade center, Kerik was in the back of his car dictating the last part of a book that was going to appear under his name. It had him writhing with delicious excitement. It was about his mother being a prostitute.

"That's what's going to make me all the money," he told a friend of mine.

[maddezmom]

51. AP Bio Box....not complete but worth a look

By The Associated Press

NAME — Bernard Bailey Kerik.



AGE-BIRTH DATE — 49; born Sept. 4, 1955, in Newark, N.J.


EDUCATION — Bachelor's degree, Empire State College.


PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE — CEO, Giuliani-Kerik LLC, 2003-present; Iraq (news - web sites)'s interim minister of the interior, 2003; partner, Giuliani Partners consulting firm, 2001-3; commissioner, New York Police Department, 2000-01; commissioner and other jobs, New York City Department of Correction, 1995-2000; police officer, NYPD, 1986-94; warden, Passaic County, N.J., Jail, 1986.


FAMILY — Two young daughters with wife, Halah. One son by his first wife, Jackie. Also fathered a daughter while stationed in Korea.

[goobergunch]

53. I rise in opposition.

The nominee is unqualified for the position and his record in Iraq casts major doubts on his ability to serve in a national-level leadership role.

[Gloria]

60. Wes Clark demolished this dunce on that CNN townhall just before

the election. Set Clark on him, and he'll shrivel up before your very eyes.....

[Bush was AWOL]

62. Saw that

New head of HS is an incompetent bozo!

[tjdee]

63. BWHAHAHAHAHA is what I'd be saying if I wasn't scared.

Kerik is a lightweight, for sure. Even Safire (I think, the guy before him in NYC, pretty sure that's his name) would have been a better choice.

This news would be so very hilarious if this wasn't our security we were talking about. :scared:

Bush is doing this just for show. That's all this is.

[Carolab]

64. Remember in the 9/11 hearings

how the families held up signs when Bernard was testifying that said "Lies"

[NYC]

65. Kerik is a senior vice president at Giuliani Partners...

Kerik is a senior vice president at Giuliani Partners, the New York-based consulting firm that the former mayor set up with a number of top aides after leaving office.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/War-on-Terror/911-cop-picked-to-protect-America/2004/12/03/1101923318746.html?oneclick=true

[Tripmann]

66. Wonder who shrubs first choice was......

"Mr President, we have double checked like you asked. John Wayne is definitely dead sir, and no, we can't give him the job of Homeland Security chief regardless"

Tripmann

[zann725]

68. So does that mean we're 'officially' a Police State now?

n/t :spank: