DoveTurnedHawk
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:56 AM
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Sen. Clinton Says No to '04, But Playfulness Hints at Yes |
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When the guests descended on the Clinton family home in Chappaqua on Sunday evening, most of them had already heard that the answer to the question was, roughly speaking, no, a thousand times no, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton would not make a run for the presidency next year.
By the end of the night, "no" was not quite the word ringing in every ear as the guests — about 150 major campaign donors to the former president or to the senator — left the gathering. During cocktails in the back yard, one group heard former President Bill Clinton say that the national Democratic Party had "two stars": his wife, the junior senator from New York, and a retired general, Wesley K. Clark, who is said to be considering a run for the presidential nomination.<...> http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/09/politics/campaigns/09CLIN.htmlDTH
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:06 AM
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1. "Wait, we haven't raised enough $$$ for the RNC yet" |
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Please, don't let this meme die. The repub's need just a little bit more money...
*sigh*
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Tue Sep-09-03 05:06 AM
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2. Clark / Clinton ? Holy s--t ! What a thought. |
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Hillary never said she wasn't running for VICE-pres.
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ET Awful
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Tue Sep-09-03 05:51 AM
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Bush will win.
We do NOT need her involved this time around. It will drive away swing votes (at least in my view).
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:53 AM
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4. The GOP found that swing votes are less important than base |
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in 2000 and 2002
And Hillary would help with the base.
She would not be needed with a Dean, or indeed any of the current folks - except perhaps Joe.
But she would help Clark.
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Tue Sep-09-03 08:38 AM
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7. Possibility for sure. I wonder though, about swing non-voters? |
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I mean previously non-voters, if they come in big this cycle?
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Tue Sep-09-03 10:23 AM
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11. If she does she breaks her promise with NY |
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She said she'd remain senator until '06, and if she runs as VP and actually wins, she must give her seat up in the senate. Such a move would enrage NYers and give years worth of venom to Republicans. As much as I love Hillary, this is not her fight. Maybe '08 if Bush wins, but not before.
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Tue Sep-09-03 10:32 AM
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14. Everyone should read that entire article |
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The beginning gives you the impression she's considering it, but then she and her aides go out of their way to tell the reporter she absolutely, categorically is not running. Even the Big Dog's spokesman says that.
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Tue Sep-09-03 10:57 AM
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they lose a Senator and gain a VP, which one has more say? as far as the word, technically she'd be breaking it but she's still serving NY......
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Tue Sep-09-03 10:29 AM
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13. I'm actually surprised at how well Hillary does against Bush |
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She's within single digits, and one poll has her within 3 points. I think he book has helped her favorability. But all the Dem candidates are gaining against Chimpy so I don't think we need her to have a chance to win.
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Tue Sep-09-03 08:16 AM
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5. Hillary will run in 2004 for president |
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no matter what she says now. She will change her mind "for the good of the country".
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Tue Sep-09-03 10:36 AM
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Wesley Clark will, but she won't. Certain Dems want her to but it will not happen in 2004. Bank on it.
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Tue Sep-09-03 08:21 AM
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If Clark does get into the race, Bill Clinton will endorse HIM.
Al Gore, I believe, will endorse Dean or Kerry.
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Tue Sep-09-03 10:00 AM
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8. Her run would be a mistake |
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We have alot of pubs who are thinking about voting dem this time. Last thing we need is them not wanting to vote for a Clinton.
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Tue Sep-09-03 10:03 AM
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and I will write/phone/e-mail/ fax her at the merest signal that she is thinking about it.
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Tue Sep-09-03 10:21 AM
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Period. The Big Dog's statement about Hillary being a star means nothing when it comes to 2004. BTW, Magic Rat, I doubt if Gore or Bill Clinton will endorse anyone before they win the nomination.
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Tue Sep-09-03 10:27 AM
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12. ONE QUESTION: When will the pundits/journalists cease |
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spreading this tabloid gossip crap?
Will they be spreading rumor and speculation about Senator Clinton up until election day, 2004?
She has said over and over and over and over that she is not running for president!
But it sells tabloid papers, especially to the freeper crowd, so when journalists can't come up with anything else, they print in a whisper: Is Hillary running in 2004? Inquiring minds want to know!
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