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theearthisround Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:29 AM
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Bush calls for global cooperation
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20041202-122549-7793r.htm

"President Bush yesterday challenged international leaders to create a new world order, declaring pre-September 11 multilateralism outmoded and asserting that freedom from terrorism will come only through pre-emptive action against enemies of democracy."

"We're in a war against terrorism, and we are in it together, Americans and Canadians. ... Together we have come to realize that the world is indeed smaller since 9/11. It's more complex, perilous, more challenging," Mr. Martin said.
Both leaders called for renewed efforts in prosecuting the war on terrorism.
"In the new era the threat is different, but our duties are the same. Our enemies have declared their intentions — and so have we. Peaceful nations must keep the peace by going after the terrorists," Mr. Bush said.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:32 AM
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1. As usual, bush WANTS cooperation. But...
...he'll OFFER it only on a cold, cold day in hell.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:02 AM
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17. "terrorism" is the "trojan horse" for a One World Government....watch how
it plays out.
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MidEastMan Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:22 AM
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19. New World Order,, hmm
Well He And His Father Create Terrorists and 9/11 Was Inside Job 100% but American people are close-minded... Leaders do not need to follow Bush because they know there are no terrorist and They Know the Terrorist Where They Are Planning to Hit!!! American Plan To Take Cover The Middle East! ,,,
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:37 AM
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2. Quite a speech.
Firstly, if Bush believed in global cooperation, he'd cooperate.

Included in the speech:

New World Order

Pre 9/11 outmoded

Preemptive action against enemies


Those are significant and frightening concepts.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:45 AM
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9. Right. Everytime Bush and Blair use 'cooperation' they mean follow us.
It can't be stated enough:


Article VI of the Nuremburg Charter defines "Crimes Against Peace" as "planning, preparation, initiation or waging of war of aggression, or a war in violation of international treaties . . . or participation in a common plan or conspiracy . . . to wage an aggressive war.

To initiate a war of aggression is the “supreme international crime” condemned at Nuremberg.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:20 AM
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11. Bear in mind this is the Washington Times
who have put their own right wing spin on the speech.

Here's the whole speech from the LA Times. It doesn't actually contain the words "new world", "order", "outmoded", or "preemptive".

What it does contain, and is worth discussing, is:

Yet the success of multilateralism is measured not merely by following a process, but by achieving results. The objective of the U.N. and other institutions must be collective security, not endless debate. For the sake of peace, when those bodies promise serious consequences, serious consequences must follow.
...
There is only one way to deal with enemies who plot in secret and set out to murder the innocent and the unsuspecting. We must take the fight to them. We must be relentless, and we must be steadfast in our duty to protect our people.
...
If 20 years from now the Middle East is dominated by dictators and mullahs who build weapons of mass destruction and harbor terrorists, our children and our grandchildren will live in a nightmare world of danger.


So it looks pretty much like his rhetoric in the build up to the invasion of Iraq - trying to justify his invasion as enforcing a UN resolution, "take the fight to them", "dictators and mullahs" (so he's transferring from Iraq to Iran), and the old favourite, WMD.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:28 AM
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13. Thanks for enlightening me.
The speech comes out no less frightening, though.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:32 AM
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15. "pre-emptive"....by TWENTY YEARS.
He really is a sick MFing war criminal, isn't he.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:30 AM
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14. "We must take the fight to them." Like to IRAQ?
There he goes again. Still trying to tie Iraq into the 911 attacks in the minds of the rightwingnut rubes. No wonder 60% of the bushbots still think Iraq was involved in 911.

Sure wish SOMEONE in the US State Stenomedia would demand bush answer, JUST ONCE, why he keeps saying we took the fight to them, when THEM hadn't done a damn thing to us or anyone else.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:41 AM
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3. "the world is indeed smaller since 9/11"...
"especially if you subtract the hundreds of thousands of innocent lives that have been lost due to my itchy trigger finger. Good night, Cleveland, we love you. This is King George, peace, out."

Whatta DICK.
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everclear Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:50 AM
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4. "declaring pre-September 11 multilateralism outmoded" - huston we have a
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 03:52 AM by everclear
big fucking FASCIST problem and a full fledged constitutional CRISIS on our hands.

WAKE UP

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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:53 AM
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5. I guess this is plan B
getting Kofi to resign wasnt working.
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 03:57 AM
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6. he's delusional
if he thinks the rest of the world is going along with his bullshit.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:33 AM
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7. He can't possibly think they'll even believe him.............
I think he's playing to his base, the wingnuts here.:think:
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:36 AM
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8. He IS a wingnut.
He really is. No playing about it.

Delusional is right.
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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 04:49 AM
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10. or ELSE!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 05:25 AM
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12. Why should the globe cooperate with bush???
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 05:26 AM by LynnTheDem
America isn't the center of the universe, and neither is bush.

Besides, BUSH has INCREASED TERRORISM and the threat of.

Globe to bush: fck off.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 06:52 AM
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16. Global cooperation in the 21st century will mean
Edited on Fri Dec-03-04 06:52 AM by depakid
taking the US down in a manner least likely to hurt each of the individual countries involved in the effort.

I don't see how anyone can realistically draw any other conclusion.

Republican American has become an uncooperative rogue nation whose fundamental interests will be at ever increasing odds with the rest of the nations in the world community. It's not going to get any better as resources become more and more depleted in the coming decades.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:19 AM
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18. Coming from the Washington Times I could expect such tripe
Who indeed reads this rag besides FAUX viewers and freepers?
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-03-04 07:24 AM
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20. Shame we don't hear other countries saying
"KISS MY ASS, BUSH"
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