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Pale_Rider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 12:12 PM
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Cargo plane ditches in Miami lake
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/12/04/plane.crash.ap/index.html

AVENTURA, Florida (AP) -- A decades-old cargo plane went down in a lake in a Miami suburb Saturday, but the pilot and co-pilot climbed onto the fuselage and were plucked to safety by rescuers.

The Miami Air Lease plane -- with the words "Eelect (sic) George W. Bush" running the length of the fuselage -- had trouble with one of its two engines shortly after takeoff, said company office manager Alina Nodarse.


... snip ...

Nodarse said both pilots are experienced and have been with the 35-year-old, family-owned cargo carrier for many years. Nodarse said the family is Republican and the pro-Bush message was painted on shortly before the election.


Must be related to the "Morans'" family. "Eelect"?

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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 12:15 PM
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1. "Eelect"? like e-vote Diebold sElect? eom
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:03 AM
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14. I think that they meant 'REELECT'
But in a fit of karmic accuracy, the R flew off the fuselage.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 12:18 PM
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2. Sniff, sniff
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 12:19 PM by SpiralHawk
This gets my news nose twitching.

Get me the City Desk. I want reporters ALL OVER THIS

REAL REPORTERS -- not kiss-ass
corporate toadies.

Get me the story. Now.

Great Ceaser's Ghost. Get me the Real Story now !
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:59 PM
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8. It's probably nothing - but I'll trust your nose anyway.
Remember, the first story to break with respect to Watergate was also pretty innocuous.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 12:49 PM
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3. Was the pilot Eugene Hasenfus or Gary Sick?
Are leaflets what's keeping the plane afloat? Is cocaine buoyant? :evilgrin:
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 01:50 PM
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5. Just Goolgled Eugene Hasenfus
Found the Iran-Contra trading cards site. Interesting divertion.

http://homepages.cs.ncl.ac.uk/chris.holt/home.informal/bar/corsair.afdq/contra.cards/
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 03:07 PM
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9. Depends on how you pack it.
I know that square groupers float real well.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 12:50 PM
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4. You have to wonder if these "followers" did any special
flying for the BFEE, you know like delivering alien techies or dumping odd boxes. Wouldn't be the first time that cleaning up of loose ends was done this way, just didn't expect pilots to make it out. (adjusting my :tinfoilhat: and wondering :shrug:)
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:00 PM
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6. CNN HN just now showed it. Pretty funny -- in a tragic sort of way.
Recognizing that 2 people died, and that's sad, still the pics of this plane 2/3 submerged in a FL swamp, with the words EELECT GEORGE W. BUSH barely visible is somewhat comical and ironic.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 05:01 PM
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10. I don't think they died. CNN says they climbed out on top of the plane
so they are alive and well.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 02:47 PM
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7. Now this is definitely time to adjust my tinfoil beanie tightly. It's
too BIZARRE to be a coincidence. A signal of something? The family is Republican? :crazy:



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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:58 PM
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11. Arg! This is going to bug me all night now!
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 12:02 AM by The Night Owl
WTF does "EELECT" mean? How does a typo end up on the fuselage of a plane?

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k8conant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:07 AM
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12. That Republican family can't spell apparently...
http://www.nbc6.net/news/3971349/detail.html
Nodarse said both pilots are experienced and have been with the 35-year-old, family-owned cargo carrier for many years. Nodarse said the family is Republican and the pro-Bush message was painted on shortly before the election.

...

Nodarse believed the plane was carrying a load of luggage to Nassau, Bahamas. Convairs began flying in the 1940

:kick:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 07:06 AM
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15. Luggage or
Diebold machines??? :evilgrin:
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:56 AM
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13. The Plot Thickens! It used to say... kick!
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 01:24 AM by Liberty Belle
"Re-elect George Bush."

Check out these pictures taken October 21st of the same plane:

http://planepictures.net/netsearch4.cgi?srch=N41626&srng=2&stype=reg
It clearly reads "Re-elect George Bush."

Just as the CNN shots and video clearly show "E-elect George Bush, which the article states was painted on BEFORE the election.

The plane, a CV-340, has this registration number: N4 1626
according to the Propliner Databse Display Page at http://proplinerlist.kunadt.ch/display_table.asp

There is a note that it was seen and photographed 4/08/04 at the Belize International Airport. Under "Remarks" it states "Photographed today with Reelect George W Bush titles in large red letters."

It is registered to Miami Air Lease. I did a google search but could find no record of who owns this company. The CNN article said the family is Republican. Why so secretive?

Here is the address and phone:

7905 NW 66th St., Miami, FL 33166
(305)477-1185

I also searched for the pilot and copilot. I found no matches for the Pilot, Alejandro Bristol. However, I found quite a few matches for co-pilot Dennis Villavicencio. There appear to be several people by this name, but one was rather intriguing. Ther is a Carlsbad, CA lawyer by this name. He specializes in financial cases and he is quoted in an article I found warning others about crooked financial advisors. Maybe no relation, but interesting.

The plane that crashed was made by Convair. Here is its history, accournd to http://www.ruudleeuw.com/convair.htm

N4 1626 is a CV340 model, cn 274, designated C-131B when it was delivered to the USAF in September 1955 as 53-7822. It was used in the military, FAA and Systems Command, wound up in desert story in Tuscosn in 87. Registered to Steven G. Pennin in 1991 as N41626 and changed owners under same tail number in December 1993 to Miami Air Lease. The sites shows an old photo from Feb. 1999; no Bush messages on the tail back then.

The plane supposedly was carrying luggage to Nassau in the Bahamas (a popular offshore account location).

Since some here have seen this on video, plus the E-elect appears in photos taken by CNN as as well as a Miami TV station (see link in another thread), the question arises: Who changed the "Reelect" to "Eelect" and why?

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