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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 08:22 PM
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Kerry Gives Money to Support Dem Races
WASHINGTON - John Kerry (news - web sites) is giving $250,000 to support Democrats in disputed elections in Washington state and Louisiana and forming a new fund that could help his future political ambitions.



Kerry is forming a political action committee that will allow him to donate to Democrats in local, congressional and governor's races in the next two years, as well as support promote his agenda on the environment, health care, energy and Social Security (news - web sites).


Kerry spokesman David Wade said the Massachusetts senator has wired $200,000 to support another recount in the Washington governor's race. Democrat Republican Dino Rossi was certified as the winner Tuesday, but Democrat Chris Gregoire was only 42 votes behind.


Kerry also wired $50,000 to Louisiana, where Democrats are running in two run-off races in contests where no candidate won a majority in last month's election.


That money came from the $14 million left over from his campaign's primary race fund. Kerry did not spend that money while running against other Democrats early in the year and wasn't able to spend it in the general election against Bush.


That money cannot be transferred to the yet-unnamed leadership PAC. Wade said Kerry will raise money to fill the PAC's coffers, but doesn't have a target amount in mind.


The PAC will be based in Kerry's hometown of Boston and headed by experienced Democratic strategist John Giesser. Giesser worked on Kerry's 1996 Senate race and on presidential campaigns since 1984.

more..

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=536&e=4&u=/ap/20041205/ap_on_go_co/kerry_congress



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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 08:41 PM
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1. Good for him!
This is good news.
I'm glad to hear that Kerry is in there pitching.

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beets Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:10 PM
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8. Pitching pantywaist sandlot stickball that is.
I've lost every grain of respect for the man. Maybe he knows how to complain to authorities. He just can't be one himself. He left us in the cold people.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 08:59 PM
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2. Uh ! Oh! Sounds like he is packing it in for 04! Damn. And gearing
Edited on Sat Dec-04-04 09:23 PM by saracat
up for 08.I hope I'm wrong but this piece hints of that . Double Damn.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 09:07 PM
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3. Packing it in for 08?
Where do you see that?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 09:21 PM
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4.  I mean giving up on 04 sorry should have been clearer!
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beets Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 10:59 PM
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7. He bailed when he should have come out swinging
If he abandons this blatant voter fraud then he's abandoned us.
Sorry, if that's all he's made of I wouldn't vote him local dogcatcher in '08. (yes I voted for him). What this tells me is that he, the dem senate and house are out for themselves and they're not going to help us. Goodbye '08, '12, '16, '20 this is only the second election in the sequence that's been stolen. Nothing preventing wholesale destruction of what used to be America. Our kid's futures, senseless wars and death, grief, endless grief. Thanks Kerry. Sorry you couldn't get a backbone.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 04:33 AM
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39. Third.
NT!

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 05:41 AM
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41. Oh, I don't know if even he thinks he can flip the election
and many here say it's not about him anyway. It's about fair voting. Perhaps he agrees.

I guess a miracle could happen. The recount is going forward, and he has contributed to that by supporting their efforts.

But considering the very real probability that the recount won't be enough, that the air votes and suppressed votes would also have been needed, I can't blame him for covering bases.

And for once I wish folks would take what he does at face value. Perhaps he's gearing up to fight for these issues because he said he would. He appears to be trying to make sure every vote gets counted because he said he would. If that gets him elected in '08 (or re-elected depending on your POV) so be it. But why does his every action have to be cynically seen as early campaigning, even attending a soldiers funeral.

I'll be there. I'll also probably contribute to the PAC once the tax returns come on in. May be the last one I ever see if Bush gets his way, might as well make the best of it.

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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 09:57 PM
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5. Maybe $200k would have helped Dan Mongiardo get elected in Kentucky... n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:37 AM
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34. He gave millions
to Congressional Dems. How do you know Mongiardo didn't get some?
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:51 AM
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35. Because after the election, Mongiardo said
that he could have used help & didn't get it.

And the race was so close.

The Senate Dems committee borrowed money to try & help, but there just wasn't enough to spread through all the races.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 02:05 AM
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36. He still has $280,000
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 02:14 AM
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37. That report is as of 10/13
& did you see the money Mongiardo had compared to Bunning?

Also, this race was unexpectedly close...it kept getting closer as they got to election day.

He lost by very little.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 06:40 AM
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42. Check it out for yourself...
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 06:41 AM by arcos
Top contributors for Daniel Mongiardo (D)

Democratic Senatorial Campaign Cmte $34,000
American Federation of Teachers $10,000
Assn of Trial Lawyers of America $10,000
Carpenters & Joiners Union $10,000
DASHPAC $10,000
Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $10,000
Ironworkers Union $10,000
Laborers Union $10,000
Machinists/Aerospace Workers Union $10,000
Morgan Law Firm $10,000
National Education Assn $10,000
New Jersey United $10,000
Plumbers/Pipefitters Union $10,000
Searchlight Leadership Fund $10,000
Service Employees International Union $10,000
Sheet Metal Workers Union $10,000
United Auto Workers $10,000
United Mine Workers $10,000
Working Assets Funding Service $8,000
Communications Workers of America $7,500

http://www.opensecrets.org/races/contrib.asp?ID=KYS2&cycle=2004&special=N


On edit: Another list of all +$1,000 contributors...
http://www.campaignmoney.com/candidate.asp?id=S4KY00059&cycle=04&yr=04
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 09:58 PM
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6. Sounds like a smart move.
That's a lot of cheese, that $14 million. Giving it to those who can use it makes sense.

Remember when JFK2 had to mortgage his house so he could stay in the race? Seems like a long time ago.
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 02:16 AM
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38. "Sounds like a smart move." As well as long term planning ...
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 02:23 AM by djmaddox1
I am happy to see that Kerry is laying groundwork for the future. Black box voting indeed HAS to be fixed & made fraud free, but Dems also have to plan the battles ahead on all fronts. This isn't just a one trick pony, there's an entire war to found ahead of us. Good for him! (& good for us!) Those that want to bash Kerry for not reacting in the way that they wish should still be able to acknowledge that there is the need for prep on all fronts - local to state to national, & that means cash to start. I don't see many others setting up for this, with the exception of Dean (I love this guy too!) & a very few others, most of the primary people aren't doing much proactively. These smaller races are important to the voting battle, they will provide support from the groung (us) up to the national level. Not saying don't be ticked how '04 is going, just don't be so quick to turn your back on all the avenues of change.

Not replying so much to Octafish, more to the general Kerry hating going around. TY, Octafish.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:12 PM
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9. What about giving money to support recounts? n/t
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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:22 PM
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10. He already did! n/t
n/t
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:26 PM
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11. Yeah but how much?
And in what proportion to the Greens and Libertarians?

I'm very disappointed with his silence.
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beets Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:28 PM
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12. Why isn't he behaving like an authority?
He abandoned us, people.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:31 PM
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13. Where, I heard Jesse Jackson criticizing Kerry last nite on
CNN for not stepping up in Ohio.
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beets Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:36 PM
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14. It means he's showing his true colors, VW, read my entry
#7 and tell me what your take is please.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:40 PM
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15. Agree, if Kerry doesn't fight he doesn't deserve to be president. n/t
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beets Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:48 PM
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16. I've noticed people just don't want to discuss the heart of any matter
with this attitude it means we're asleep. If we're asleep bush can burn our house down. This is serious stuff I'm noticing all over this site. Looks like we're set for a rude awakening.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 11:57 PM
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17. Welcome to DU! There are plenty of people here pissed off
with Kerry reticence about stepping forward for any
of the recount issues.
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beets Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:04 AM
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18. Since we're running out of time (1-6)
Wolf have you any idea what happens once the recount favors Kerry butthe Ohio reps ignore the theft and take the election anyway?
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beets Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:17 AM
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19. Zactly my point....no one wants to discuss the heart of the matter.
I've not had one direct response to a real question such as the above.I'm beginning to think of the kid in NY who committed suicide because bush stole this one too was simply being a pragmatist.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:34 AM
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22. Too damn right
I contributed to Kerry's GELAC fund (as well as his campaign) with the understanding he'd use it to protect our votes -- NOT to buy favors for '08. Neither the Republicans NOR the Democrats are getting this Independent's vote in the foreseeable future.
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beets Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:44 AM
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24. magellan, our votes will mean jack-squat in '08, '12, '16, '20
There will be only one party in the future.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:56 AM
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26. True (nim)
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:33 AM
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21. popular vote decides the electors in Ohio
state law - doesn't go to "reps".
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beets Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:49 AM
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25. It may be the state law but from what I understand the sitting repugs
there are not bound to vote with the popular findings. I heard the
only backlash for them is not being allowed as future electors. I hope this is wrong. It's making me crazy.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:44 AM
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43. if a recount overturned the Ohio election
the electors would be Democrats...

The State house has no role in this.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:27 AM
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20. Let the Kerry bashing continue..
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 12:27 AM by politicasista
I guess he will continue to lose more support cause he "stepping forward in Ohio." :-(
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beets Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:36 AM
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23. Are you saying he is stepping forward in Ohio or did you miss a word?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:00 AM
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27. He did help out in WA


Kerry spokesman David Wade said the Massachusetts senator has wired $200,000 to support another recount in the Washington governor's race. Democrat Republican Dino Rossi was certified as the winner Tuesday, but Democrat Chris Gregoire was only 42 votes behind.

Kerry also wired $50,000 to Louisiana, where Democrats are running in two run-off races in contests where no candidate won a majority in last month's election.
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beets Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:17 AM
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30. There was a National Election in the United States recently. I believe it
was held Nov 2 of this year. The actual winner had the election stolen from him, but amazingly, he vanished, abandoning all of his supporters to the horror of bush sitting in the oval office, by fraud, for the second time in a row. He said nothing to his millions of financial supporters, 21 million kids who got fired up to vote for a decent government, to the thousands of people who stood in the rain for hours to vote for him, to the millions of man-hours spent in his behalf he had nothing to say.
So he gave a few bucks to some unimportant counties. So What? We're screwed because of his cowardice over the big one. The Big One.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 05:30 AM
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40. Cellophane
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 05:31 AM by LittleClarkie
"Mister Cellophane
Should have been my name
Mister Cellophane
'cause you can look right through me
Walk right by me
And never know I'm there!"

The Rodney Dangerfield of politics strikes again.

He releases a video on November 19th vowing to continue to fight and setting up a darn good idea for a children's health care bill.

"I can't see him. Where's he go?"

His people join the Glibs to support them in court in Ohio.

"He's vanished!"

We hear that he and the DNC have been listening to and supporting investigative journalist Madsen in his quest to find the truth about this years election.

"He's left us alone!"

He wires money to Washington and Louisiana.

"He's disappeared on us! The COWARD!"

He forms a PAC to help fellow Dems and fight for the issues he deems important, like heath care.

"Where is he?"

He vows to go to Iraq.

"Nope, he's not there for us."

I'll go get a hari kari sword, so he can fall on it publicly and make everyone feel better. THEN maybe someone will notice him. "Ah, he's dead. Well I never really supported him, but at least he had the courage to Gore himself like that. Moving on..."

Forgive him for covering his bases. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. I'll go get him an olive switch.

(/bitterbitch)

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beets Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:07 AM
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28. I guess I need to go elsewhere to educate myself to get results.
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 01:23 AM by beets
I fear for all of us.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:13 AM
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29. you know what?
if you dropped that condescending tone people might respond to you
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beets Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:19 AM
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31. Point taken. I'm just frustrated and exhausted to find solutions.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:20 AM
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32. I understand
This is a very frustrating situation.
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beets Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 01:32 AM
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33. Ah, boy.
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