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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:41 PM
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Jury Decides Attacks on World Trade Center Were 2 Events
NEW YORK -- The jury in the multibillion dollar insurance case between World Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein and nine of the insurers who provided coverage on the Twin Towers decided Monday that the attacks constituted two occurrences for all nine insurers.

The verdict is a major victory for Mr. Silverstein, who has contended that the attacks were two events entitling him to two payments under his insurance policy. Monday's decision entitles Mr. Silverstein to collect up to an additional $1.1 billion above the $3.55 billion in coverage.

Judge Michael Mukasey thanked the jury for reaching a verdict on a complicated case.

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http://money.excite.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt.jsp?section=news&cat=INDUSTRY&feed=dji&news_id=dji-00068420041206&date=20041206
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villagechild Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:48 PM
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1. events
so are they calling these "events" Acts of God for insurance purposes? Who know what about L. Silverstein, the "leaseholder"?
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:49 PM
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2. Swiss Re isn't going to be happy about this...
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:56 PM
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3. The first event was when the planes struck the towers and
...the second events were when the explosives that caused the towers to fall were set off!
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Rzrbk Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 08:57 PM
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4. That's a truly ignorant statement ...
How can you honestly believe that the attacks were committed by someone within this country?
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:09 PM
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6. Operation Northwoods.
How can you naively believe that powerful people in a country WOULDN'T do something horrible to consolidate their own power?
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:09 PM
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7. well, there's two sides to this...
There are the "conspiracy theories" and there are the "coincidence theories"... hard to say which ones have the most credibility. There are SO many coincidences surrounding 9/11 that one has to wonder if a FEW of them can't be chalked up to conspiracies, either of the MIHOP or LIHOP varieties. Then again, if even ONE of the conspiracy theories proves to be true, doesn't that...?

MIHOP = Made It Happen On Purpose
LIHOP = Let It Happen On Purpose

By the way, THIS will not be mentioned when Republicans argue about the high cost of insurance. and call for tort reform. No caps on THESE damages...
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:14 PM
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9. Psst. They were committed by people within this country.
The planes hit the towers within the US. Not only were the hijackers in this country when the acts happened, there seems to be evidence that they had all been within the US for a long time before the attacks took place.

I think the distinction you're trying to draw is, "do you think they were committed by Americans," no? But I don't think this bomb conspiracy theory depends on bomb planters being American citizens, so your question doesn't really make sense.

(And just so that I don't get mixed up with this conspiracy theory, I think the idea that there were bombs isn't based on any reasonable evidence, and I don't understand why people get so fixated on this idea.)
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villagechild Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:15 PM
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10. ignorance
is defined as the lack of knowledge or education.

Let's suppose we're making an educated guess, that the 9/11 Twin Towers remains a mystery or secret ... After all, Moussaoui, 35, a French citizen of Moroccan descent, is the only person charged in the United States in connection with the suicide hijack attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, in which nearly 3,000 people died.




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Winamericaback Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:18 PM
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11. Oklahoma City?
I think personally that 9/11 was done by foreign terrorists but you are being ignorant if you think that Americans don't want to hurt this country just as badly.

What about McVeigh and Oklahoma City? He was an American and he killed hundreds of people, had the building been bigger more people would have died at the hands of an American.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:46 AM
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13. That dude was a stooge. Lots more to that story, IMHO
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:50 PM
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15. Can you prove it wasn't Rzrbk?
...Since you are apparently new to DU, I first want to welcome you.

Next, I would suggest that you do research on the topic before making accusations and derogatory comments regarding other DU member posts. There are plenty of sites on the web which address all theories on the events that lead up to and on the day of the 9-11 tragedy. Do your homework and don't be so quick to speak out of your butt!
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theearthisround Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:07 PM
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5. Larry Silverstein admitted to demolishing WTC 7 on video
Edited on Mon Dec-06-04 09:11 PM by theearthisround
Watch the video of him on PBS's "America Rebuilds"

http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html

In a September 2002 PBS documentary called 'America Rebuilds,' Silverstein states, in reference to World Trade Center Building 7, "I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:13 PM
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8. I'm glad to hear this...
insurance companies make real estate developers look like sweet grandmothers, and that's not easy. Silverstein had just leased the buildings not long before the attack. (The property is owned by the NY/NJ Port Authority.)

Having dealt with an insurance company after the place I worked at had an ambulance literally 'lost' after the towers collapsed (it took them days to find the vehicle in the rubble; the EMT had run into the building seconds before it collapsed and died), I'm glad they lost the case. I believe they already ratcheted up business's premiums for 'terrorist acts' post 9-11; let them pay some of it out. Their attitude to us, for a very small dollar claim, was this incredibly smug 'Act of War' refrain, which was what they said in response to anything we said.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:57 PM
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16. The NY/NJ Port Authority is actually a quasi-governmental....
...organization is it not?

<snip>

About the Port Authority

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey manages and maintains the bridges, tunnels, bus terminals, airports, PATH and seaport that are critical to the bistate region's trade and transportation capabilities. Through our facilities and services, people are able to make vital connections and businesses are able to grow. Providing safe and efficient travel is our highest priority, and enhancing the well being of everyone who lives, works and travels here is our strongest commitment.

<link> http://www.panynj.gov/

How much does the Port Authority realize from the insurance companies for the destruction and clean-up of the WTC disaster? Or were all of their rights to claims signed over to Larry Silvermann as well?
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-06-04 09:43 PM
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12. is it true that insurance on the WTC was increased 300%
in June and July 2001?

from Pop goes the Bush mythology bubble
Part 1: The 9-11 Commission

By Karl W. B. Schwarz
Online Journal Contributing Writer


~snip~

Many do not remember that Henry Kissinger was originally slated to be the 9-11 Commission chairman until the public uproar gave cause to head a different way. One of the matters we have turned over to Eliot Spitzer's office is an evidence trail indicating that the insurance on the World Trade Center (WTC) was increased by 300 percent in June and July 2001 and one of the three U.S. named beneficiaries of that windfall is one Henry Kissinger according to the document trail uncovered by an attorney. That may or may not prove out in court, but it is odd that the name surfaces in a possible insurance scam on WTC and he also was the first choice to head the 9-11 Commission supposedly looking into the matter to find the truth.

~snip~

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/120404Schwarz/120404schwarz.html
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 06:24 AM
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14. can't get people to SEE elections being stolen...much less....
....the outright treason and collusion by those same powers that be that perpetrated what happened on 9/11 and the repercussions of their actions...sigh. :nopity:
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