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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:53 AM
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WP: DNC to Investigate Ohio Voting Irregularities
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 12:55 AM by HeeBGBz
DNC to Investigate Ohio Voting Irregularities

Washington Post article


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"The leader of the Democratic National Committee announced yesterday that he will launch an investigation into voting irregularities in Ohio, where lines snaked outside some inner-city polling places on Election Day and provisional ballots were sometimes in short supply.

Terence R. McAuliffe, chairman of the DNC, said the aim of "this comprehensive study is not to contest the results of the 2004 election, but to help ensure that every eligible vote cast is truly counted."

Mainstream?


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Sannum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 12:55 AM
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1. Finally
:eyes:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:12 PM
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18. Oooh, I'm So Scared
Or maybe the right word is Scarred. This train left the station a long time ago, too late to get on now.
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kainah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:00 AM
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2. too little, too late
It may be mainstream but it's still page A10. And, as far as McAuliffe is concerned, well..... It would have made a lot more difference, Terry, if you hadn't waited until you only had one week left before the Electoral College meets.

This just seems to me to be the WP covering their asses again so that when people accuse them of not covering this, they can point to their couple stories buried on the back pages.
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Hannahcares Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:05 AM
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3. PFAW press release discussed in WA Post article















For Immediate Release: 12/6/2004
Contact: Priscilla Ring or Laurie Boeder PFAW Foundation
email: media@pfaw.org
phone: 202.467.4999


Dispenses the Myth of “Smooth” 2004 Elections:
Shattering The Rose-Colored Glasses


Lead Groups in Election Protection’s Massive Voting Rights Mobilization Release Post-Election Review Documenting Barriers to Ballot, Systemic Inequities and Irregularities

The myth that the 2004 elections ran smoothly has become conventional wisdom for pundits and politicians, but nothing could be further from the truth. A preliminary review released today by members of the nonpartisan Election Protection coalition demonstrates that persistent problems continue to deny millions of Americans their fundamental voting rights, and makes the case for election reform at the local, state and national level.

Election Protection fielded more than 25,000 volunteers, including more than 8,000 lawyers, who monitored the polls at more than 3,500 precincts nationwide and answered the nationwide Election Protection Hotline. The program targeted heavily African-American, Latino and low-income precincts, and fielded hundreds of thousands of voter questions and complaints. The program database already includes more than 39,000 records of voter problems. Election Protection also engaged in pre-election advocacy, battling decisions by local election officials that raised barriers to the ballot box.

“The idea that the election ran smoothly, the idea that the problems we saw in 2000 did not recur in 2004, is simply a crock. Too many people faced too many barriers to the ballot box, from impossibly long lines to outright voter intimidation and misinformation. It’s time to shatter the myth and work toward an election system that is more fair and more reliable for every American,” said Ralph G. Neas, President, People For the American Way Foundation.

The preliminary review, “Shattering the Myth: An Initial Snapshot of Voter Disenfranchisement in the 2004 Elections” surfaces a myriad of systemic problems. In addition to the long lines and unreasonable waiting times that kept many people - disproportionately urban minority voters - from being able to vote, the top five problems overall were registration processing, absentee ballots, machine errors, voter intimidation and suppression, and problems with the use and counting of the new provisional ballots mandated under new federal law.

Election Protection also fought pre-election decisions by local election officials that tended to disenfranchise voters, including Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell’s ludicrous demand that voter registration forms be printed on 80-pound card stock instead of common printer paper, or Florida Secretary of State Glenda Hood’s attempts to implement a “felon purge” list that state officials knew was flawed. Those decisions were both eventually abandoned.

“The bright light of public scrutiny, intense pressure from the media and action in the courts helped us stop some of the most egregious actions, but nevertheless, too many voters were either disenfranchised or discouraged by the decisions of public officials,” said Neas. “It’s the job of government officials to advocate for voters and to clear the path to the ballot box, not erect barriers.”

Among the most disturbing reports were the more than a thousand reports of voter suppression or intimidation at the polls, including:
Police stationed outside a Cook County, Illinois polling place requesting photo ID and telling voters if they had been convicted of a felony that they could not vote.


In Arizona voters at multiple polls were confronted by an individual wearing a black tee shirt with “US Constitution Enforcer” and a military-style belt that gave the appearance he was armed. He asked voters if they were citizens, accompanied by a cameraman who filmed the encounters.


Numerous incidents of intimidation by partisan challengers at predominately low-income and minority precincts


Misinformation campaigns delivered through anonymous flyers or phone calls with a variety of intimidating or vote-suppressing messages, advising voters to go to the polls on November 3rd rather than November 2, or giving other false information on voting rights. A few of the most outrageous examples include:
"If you already voted in any election this year, you can’t vote in the Presidential Election."


"If anybody in your family has ever been found guilty of anything you can’t vote in the Presidential Election."


"If you violate any of these laws, you can get 10 years in prison and your children will be taken away from you."

While workers are still entering voter complaints into the Election Incident Reporting System, the 39,000 reports already entered include a wide range of problems surrounding voter registration, absentee ballots, voting machines, and provisional ballots.

“Since we targeted 3,500 vulnerable precincts, we saw only the tip of the iceberg. We found human error, equipment problems, bureaucratic snafus and outright attempts to deceive and misinform the voters everywhere. Extrapolate our findings to the rest of the country, and you see a picture of a flawed election system, badly in need of reform,” said Neas.

The groups will continue to analyze the data, and have also set a preliminary agenda for election reform. Early recommendations include:
Support for uniform and non-discriminatory standards for counting provisional ballots


Improved poll worker training


Better enforcement of anti-voter-intimidation laws


More efficient and accountable processing of voter registration applications


Full funding for the Help America Vote Act (HAVA)


Increased support for voter education campaigns


Immediate development of the technical guidelines for voting systems by the Election Assistance Commission (EAC)


Support for required voter verified audit trails for all voting systems


Public hearings by Congress, the EAC and possibly the Federal Election Commission


Support for a report to be undertaken by the General Accounting Office on voting irregularities throughout the country




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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:08 AM
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4. there's an article about 21 voting machines and their convoluted
history at www.rawstory.com
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:11 AM
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5. they won't report till next year.. thanks for the help - not
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:15 AM
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6. But they are not going to challenge the election results in Ohio!
This is more like a post-mortem without bothering to challenge the results! As someone said in our pro-peace listserv:

Apparently they will proceed with the recount, but there will be no request
by the democratic party to postpone the electoral college vote by Ohio until
after the recount. The democrats are not contesting the outcome of the
election, but merely participating in this recount thing as a fulfillment of
a commitment to see that all the votes are counted in Ohio.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:37 AM
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8. That's what the DNC "says." Yet as KO says, Kerry atty. says:
Electoral vote "all BUT certain." The operative word - "but."

And what the DNC wants, and what Kerry (and his attys) want MAY be a slightly different matter. I know it's hard to wait, but I think we should...just a little while longer.

Plus the DNC said the study should be done "some time next year."
Well...January 20 IS 'some time next year.' As would be a month or two after that, if a little extra time is needed...while a T.R.O. held the upcoming Innauguration until the matter is resolved.

I'm keeping the faith for now!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:06 AM
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13. I wonder if the Democratic Senators will fail once again to support House
Black Caucus to challenge the Electoral votes from another contested state.

Betrayed once again!
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:16 AM
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7. Extreme fatigue probably skews "eligible votes cast."
to help ensure that every eligible vote cast is truly counted

If I had been standing in line for some eight hours, without water, food, or rest, I'm not certain I'd be lucid enough to cast a vote.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 05:27 AM
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16. I would.
And if the lines weren't being supplied with water, food, and standins for bathroom breaks, we were damn fools.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:06 PM
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17. Basic reasons for large spoilage....
There's always going to be a variance between people and their abilities. I'm trying to understand basic reasons why there would be greater ballot spoilage in poor areas where there were long lines.

Over the years I've read that fatigue/exhaustion increase incidence of mistakes, and my personal experience tends to support that--but I don't remember ever standing in any line for 8 hours. In the precincts that I've voted in, I've never seen refreshments or public bathrooms.

To me it's not surprising that there's a higher incidence of spoilage and error, perhaps even some ineligible votes cast, due to either deliberate or incompetent plans to fatigue some voters.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:43 AM
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9. So who's buyin?
Edited on Tue Dec-07-04 01:48 AM by shance
Pardon the cynicism, but really, who's buying this fiction?

I appreciated this statement in particular:

<< Terence R. McAuliffe, chairman of the DNC, said the aim of "this comprehensive study is not to contest the results of the 2004 election, but to help ensure that every eligible vote cast is truly counted." >>

That's some straight talk there Terry. Im glad to know you think votes are being counted when you stated yourself how they in fact are NOT being counted.

I can tell McCauliffe really means business with those Republicans. They must be shaking in their boots with someone like Terry around.

Oh yes, what has the DNC done for us lately?

And how gullible are we?
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:51 AM
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10. way to go Terry!
I hear he's gonna come out against slavery next week.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:21 AM
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15. LOL!**
Yes, no doubt a true willingness to take on the toughest issues. He flinches at nothing.

;)
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lakelly Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:32 PM
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19. too funny!!
Thanks for the chuckle. I really needed that.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:00 AM
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12. Democrats have been losing questionable state races for four years
Where was Terry McAwful when red flags were raised by BBV activists during all that time?

Looks as if this is just a CYA statement. Just a statement, but no real action.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 01:59 AM
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11. BFD. Right. Sure. Want some swamp land?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-04 02:08 AM
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14. So send some prominent DEMS on TV to raise hell about it.
And stir up some shit.

Otherwise most folks will never hear about it and its all a big waste of time...

Or jusr keep the same old "dont rock the boat" stratesy- seems to be working great so far.
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