Rumsfeld Query No Shock to Soldier's Wife

[Florida_Geek]

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Rumsfelds-Questioner.html?oref=login

December 8, 2004
Rumsfeld Query No Shock to Soldier's Wife
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 3:39 p.m. ET

CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. (AP) -- Regina Wilson wasn't entirely surprised to see her husband, a guardsman bound for Iraq, on television Wednesday challenging Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld with a tough question.

``He is always like that,'' she said. ``I don't think he understands the concept of biting one's tongue. It wouldn't matter if it was Bush himself standing there. He would have dissed him the same.''


..more at AP..

:toast: this trooper....

[ewagner]

1. I'll go with that

:toast: :toast: :toast:

[skypilot]

2. Except, it wasn't a diss.

It was a legitimate question.

[Canuckistanian]

32. Ahh, but questioning this administration has become a diss

[deadparrot]

3. Good for him.

The applause that followed the question proves that he isn't just some loon on an ego trip. He's a very brave guy to openly challenge BushCo.

[laheina]

6. And apparently there are others who agree. nt

[Pachamama]

25. Well, the Pentagon (via AP) says he's a "Disgruntled" Soldier...I guess

the applause in the background from the 2300 soldiers there implies that we can assume that they are all disgruntled soldiers...

Hmmmm....:eyes:

[gatorboy]

4. Let the spin begin....

Wouldn't surprise me if they tried to blacken this man's name though...

Still, you're correct. Cheers to her husband for sticking it to the man!

[Pachamama]

26. Blacken his name? How about how long does this poor guy have to live!

I seriously wonder if someone can do some tracking and see how long he lives before he becomes a name and picture shown by Aaron Brown at the end of NewsNight or on The Lehrer Report at the end of the show when they do their tributes.

I'm serious...I wouldn't put it past these fascist scum bags like Crummy Rummy to put this poor guy on a dangerous duty that gets him killed....

Is anyone just out of curiousity tracking the "disgruntled" soldiers that speak out or question the Pentagon and Rumsfeld and how long and what percentage of them "make it"? :eyes:

[BrklynLiberal]

35. EXCELLENT POINT! DISGRUNTLED=SHORT LIVED n/t

[allalone]

37. remember King David

send Bathsheba's husband off to get killed so he could have her himself.

[rfranklin]

5. But notice these two brain dead citizens voted for Bush...

And it's not that he's questioning the war--he wants better weapons to fight it more effectively. While it's nice to see Rumsfeld caught up in his lies, these poeple are idiots.

[Florida_Geek]

7. So much for my toast

more brain dead troopers.

[skypilot]

8. Hence...

...her characterizing her husband's speaking up as "dissing". Screwy mindset at work.

[Name removed]

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[Gloria]

9. I heard the clip on the BBC World Service this AM...no one booed

the soldier....I just heard what seemed to be a shocked gasp of surprise.

When he finished asking why they had to go to dumps to find material to protect their vehicles, Rumsfeld gave the most arrogant answer imaginable.

He should have been lynched right there....

[Pirate Smile]

11. Other troops cheered after he asked the question.

[elehhhhna]

21. silence, gasp, hoots, CHEERS. All together, in order. I heard it all.

[wildwww2]

51. He gave the standard. It`s Clintons fault answer. The soldier

does not get the point however. Or he just does not give a damn. That he is a part of a war crime. He just evidently wants to survive one. Along with his compadres. And I don`t blame him. But his problem is Bu$h. The domestic threat to our constitution of We the People. Is not in Iraq. It is squatting in Al Gore`s White House.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[GreenArrow]

10. if he were really "dissing" him

The soldier would have called Der Rummer onto the carpet for sending him to fight in a bullshit war, a war founded on lies and greed, and buttressed with hate and ignorance. Instead, his focus was on some sort of Star Wars-type, Stormtrooperesque body armor, that GOD given right.

I hate to say it, but I agree with Rummy on this one. "Yours is not to reason why, yours is but to do or die."

[thecrow]

12. Rumsferatu asked him to repeat the question?

How condescending.... how disgusting!
I'm glad *someone* was able to finally ask the question.
Good for this soldier!!

[judaspriestess]

13. We support Bush 100%

then why did your husband ask the question?
seems to me regina is the one who has been dissed by * by not giving a shit about her and her husband.

[Postman]

14. I wouldn't call it "dissing" I'd call it holding SOMEONE accountable

n/t

[okieinpain]

15. I guess you guy's did not see chappelle's black bush skit. what's

really funny is it was just on last night. man if it wasn't so over the top it would be a dead ringer for bushco.

[Fridays Child]

17. Is it online anywhere?

[okieinpain]

30. try this

http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/chappellesshow/showclips.jhtml?startIndex=7

third one down.

[MrBenchley]

16. Gee, wonder if Rumsfeld's answer was a shock to her....

"I don't think he understands the concept of biting one's tongue. It wouldn't matter if it was Bush himself standing there."
Good for him. We need more like him.

[SKKY]

18. It wasn't his question that warmed my heart...

...it was the response of his fellow GI's, after he asked the question, that really hammered home the point that we sent these guys to battle woefully under-equipped.

[PsychoDad]

50. They are still better equipped...

Than the majoroty of Iraqi civilians who are dying in this war.

[gratuitous]

19. She's not shocked by his question

I wonder if she'll be shocked by the man who comes home from Iraq? You know, the one that looks like her husband, but who doesn't quite act or think the same way as he did when he left for Iraq?

[against all enemies]

20. Rumsfeld is such an arrogant dick. History will castrate him.

[Sugarbleus]

47. I hope he gets literal castration...

He so needs an asskicking. Better yet, he needs the same treatment the detainees got in Abu G.

What a useless obsessive/compulsive asswipe.

[Skittles]

22. it wasn't a DISS at all

it was a perfectly legitimate question and it is f***ing SAD that it has to be asked by A SOLDIER and not our freaking so-called MEDIA

[private_ryan]

23. both she and her husband voted for President Bush in November and support

"``It's all about duty, and he felt compelled to be over there,'' Wilson said, adding that both she and her husband voted for President Bush in November and support him ``100 percent.''"


he should shut the f-ck up and do his job.

[Logansquare]

28. That's why Rumsfeld is so valuable to the Bush administration

He administers their policies, or lack thereof, and catches the blame. GWB remains pure and blameless to conservative voters. Lack of armor? It's surely the evil Pentagon's fault, not Our Leader.

[Ilsa]

24. Hey Spc Wilson, You've just been Bushslapped!

They voted for the incompetent jackass, knowing that the troops didn't have what they needed to go to war. Why should he be surprised that nothing has changed just because he is over there now?

Hey, Regina Wilson, you also have just been Bushslapped!

(Bushslapped: A DUer's term for someone who voted for Bush and has been harmed by his policies or management.)

[SammyWinstonJack]

27. Maybe he was supposed to ask that question so

Rumfailed could give his "explanation" as to why the troops don't have armored vehicles. Ya know, to shut the naysayers up. Maybe he was a plant for Rumfailed? :tinfoilhat: Geez, these bastards have turned me into a paranoid :scared: cat.

[llmart]

29. You two voted for Bush.......

so quit your fucking whining! What a bunch of idiots. What did they expect? That Bush/Rumsfeld/Cheney actually cared about them or their families?

Stupid people.

[insane_cratic_gal]

33. by such statments

as quit your fucking whinning.. Is really no different the repuke fox toting freaks that would call his statments: Treason. flay him.. discharge him. ect.

Yes they voted for Bush.. yes we all have to live with this sucky admin.

Again, america is waking up and those type of questions are getting AIR TIME! MSM.. your statments of screw you.. you deserve it are not.

It will be these troops coming forward with shitty experiences.. taking the blame for who they voted for that will open the brainwashed eyes of fox news victims

won't it?

Try to put it into prespective, I'm just as angry over the war as you are. I'm just as pissed off that repukes swagger when they walk. However, these guys and gals are the voice of discontent and an honest view of what is going on over there. Let's try not to crap all over that before the world gets a chance to wake up.

[llmart]

40. Oh, and we've made such inroads by playing nicey nice?

Save all your sappy sentiment for the Oprah show. The repugs have trashed every Democrat they possibly could in the worse possible way. Remember John Kerry's war medals and record? Or Max Cleland? Or how they dragged the Clintons through the mud at every turn? Or how they trashed Al Gore after his long years of service to his country?

They're playing us for a bunch of fools and you want us to act like fools even more by jumping on their "support the troops no matter what" mantra. Well, I for one, will not. I support the troops who were smart enough to vote for John Kerry knowing that he had actually been in a war and would've been a better choice for them.

P.S. You may want to use the spellcheck on your posts. Your spelling puts you in a class with the Freepers.

[insane_cratic_gal]

44. Then you support me

Voted for Kerry, so did my husband we are a military family. Both registered democrats.

I'm fully aware of what it means, to be torn between the person you love and the uniform and job they perform. How he might very well be heading to Iraq in Jan. I reminded every day How much I hate this war and disagree with it. There is always in my mind the idea of trying to imagine my life with out him, the talk I’ll have to give our 6 year old daughter. I have to prepare myself mentally for that. I do not need to explain myself to you. But I was willing to try for the sake that we are suppose to be on the same side.

I'm not asking you to embrace it, only consider the whole picture before you run off with verbal diarrhea or angry sentiments. Your blanketing a statement on an entire community of people who are your potential allies?

Just because the Repugs swallow low on the totem poll of slimy tactics, doesn't mean you have to shame yourself by playing their game on their terms. Be angry, so am I.. but focus that anger where it belongs.

[llmart]

49. I do consider the whole picture......

and I still stand by what I said. If they voted for Bush then I have no sympathy or compassion for them and they need to quit their whining about their particular situation. I never said I didn't support troops such as you and your husband who voted for Kerry.

I feel no shame whatsoever in saying what I did. I'm being honest about my feelings. When people are ignorant enough to fall for the lies and propaganda of this administration, then they get what they deserve and shouldn't expect sympathy when things don't go their way. I made no blanket statements about ALL military people.

And for your information, my husband and I were "military family" with a brand new baby during the VietNam war, so I know what it's like to be in your situation. However, we had no choice in the matter back then because there was a draft and your life was ruled by "will I get called up or not?" I had hoped people would've learned something by that, but the real history is not taught in schools, so it seems we're doomed to repeat our mistakes.

[MADem]

46. They may not have

...the guy joined the USAF well before 9/11, during the CLINTON administration. He only affiliated with the Guard after he did his USAF tour. The article does not mention political affiliation. And neither he nor his ex seems enthused with the administration. Maybe he affiliated because he knew he'd be pulled back in any event. Hard to say without knowing more about him.

Also, the headline is inaccurate, but I guess the story sounds better if the NYT says WIFE, instead of Ex-Wife. Even if they quote the girlfriend at the end!

[LynnTheDem]

34. With a wife like that,

the hubby doesn't need enemies.

[allalone]

36. dissed? hunh?

He didn't dis rummy. He asked a legitimate question. Things have become so bad here that when I heard that while walking past the TV, I stopped dead in my tracks to see who it was that had balls enough to ask the question. Have you noticed since they have grabbed power again that they aren't even pretending to be decent anymore?

[eek]

38. His story will be worth following . Speaking of:

anyone hear any updates about that group of soldiers who refused to go out on a suicide mission?

Last I heard they were sort of 'corralled' but some had managed to get through to their Stateside loved ones.

Anyone hear more?

[TacticalPeek]

39. I believe they benefited from the media spotlight. So far.

U.S. Army reservists escape court-martial

~snip~

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- The U.S. military will not court-martial 23 Army reservists who refused a mission transporting fuel along a dangerous road in Iraq, but they will face less severe punishment, an official said Monday.

The soldiers from the 343rd Quartermaster Company, based in Rockhill, N.C., may be assigned extra duties or face reductions in rank, military spokesman Lt. Col. Steve Boylan said.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1048218

[spanone]

41. Go Soldier!!!!! Rummy is one ballsy bastard.

[SKKY]

42. I'm not saying they're right for doing what they will do...

...but I shudder to think what this poor fellow's Chain of Command will do to him for his "candid" question. Even if they agree with him, rest assured, there will be repercussions for this. I wore my John Kerry t-shirt one day on base (The really cool "retro" one with blue rings around the neck and sleeves) and got more than one comment like, "Maybe you should enlist in Canada's Navy", or "Freakin' Commie". It's unfortunate, but it seems the ones who get hurt the most by this administrations policies are it's strongest supporters. I just don't get it.

[t-bone1582]

43. the Bush administration's Insidious use of hypocrisy

I find it interesting that Kerry got slammed for voting against the now infamous 87 billion supplemental bill. The charge was that "if John Kerry had his way he would have left the troops high and dry" In practice that obviously would not have happen because of his vote. no one seemed to have taken the time to understand the difference between Kerry's vote in the senate, and Bushes use of funds as commander in Chief. When kerry made a vote on principle he made it knowing the congress would ultimately not leave troops high and dry. Bush in practice is not supplying our troops.

[Dr Fate]

45. She has more gumption than most prominent Democrats.

I have yet to see a single prominent Democrat go on TV and express outrage and demand his resignation.

Oh yeah- Dodd "wrote a letter"-OHHHH!-yeah I'll bet they are shaking in their boots over that.

[high density]

48. And he supports Bush 100%...

What's wrong with these people? I have a hard time feeling compassion for them if they're going to vote against their own interests.