Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

All Ohio counties facing presidential vote recount

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:28 AM
Original message
All Ohio counties facing presidential vote recount
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041208/NEWS01/412080400/1056

All Ohio counties facing presidential vote recount

By Cindi Andrews
Enquirer staff writer

Southwest Ohio election officials are gearing up for a costly recount of the presidential vote, although only Hamilton County has received a request so far.

Libertarian presidential candidate Michael Badnarik and Green Party presidential candidate David Cobb said Tuesday that they have mailed requests to all 88 counties. They must pay the counties $10 per precinct, or $113,600 statewide, but Secretary of State Ken Blackwell estimates the recount will cost $1.5 million

A recount requires election officials to count 3 percent of ballots both by hand and by machine. If the results agree, all ballots are then recounted by machine. If the results don't agree, all ballots must be counted by hand.

A 100 percent hand count could take two weeks in Hamilton County, election director John Williams estimated, while a 3 percent recount might only take two days.

more...

Also the candidates have the right to inspect the ballots and there has to be equal observers from Libertarian Green and democrats

this is really going to be interesting!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
senegal1 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:30 AM
Response to Original message
1. Woohoo! Get your seat belt on!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KeireG Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:30 AM
Response to Original message
2. Alright, this is excellent news....
So we'll know pretty soon if the results agree.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:31 AM
Response to Original message
3. Go Recount Go
We live in interesting times.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:33 AM
Response to Original message
4. Damn the torpedos, full steam ahead with a 100 percent recount
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 01:34 AM by Straight Shooter
I know TruthIsAll will say 3 percent is good enough because it presents a sufficient sampling, but let's leave no stone unturned as we search for creepy-crawly evidence of Repubs tampering with the vote in O-HI-O.

A big thank you to everyone who is making this possible.

edit: we live in very interesting times :toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:35 AM
Response to Original message
5. But it is skewed to the $$ cost to state residents...
...and not supportive.



At least it exists.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:40 AM
Response to Original message
6. Tin foil hat time here
As I read this, I though . . . well, if the people making the vote counting machines knew this law, they could easily program them to count the first several whatever thousand votes accurately, then start to throw them to * after that. Probably a very simple thing to program. Wish i didn't think so much.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:45 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. The first several thousand votes might not be the ones counted
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 01:46 AM by Merlot
They should be pulled randomly.

I hope.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:51 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. But . . .
they would be the first several thousand through the machine, no matter what part of the pile they come from. I think that's what matters. But then I'm paranoid by nature. Hope I'm wrong.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:57 AM
Response to Reply #9
12. Oh I see what you're saying
Silly me, I thought we were counting paper ballots by hand. But they will be sending ballots through a machine to be counted. Again.

Now you've got me worried.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberal43110 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:43 AM
Response to Original message
7. Good Article!
Thanks for posting this. I especially found the information on the methodology interesting--have heard pieces and speculation, but not the full picture.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:56 AM
Response to Reply #7
11. Your Welcome I liked this article for the same reason
It finally shows Blackwell is in real trouble with a recount!!!

mainly because there are three parties Dems Greens And Libs going to see what the Repubs did!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
purduejake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:19 AM
Response to Reply #11
16. Thank gawd 3rd parties dragged dems into this recount.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 01:54 AM
Response to Original message
10. Great Article.
Thanks for posting. Let's hope and pray people.

'Nuff said.

:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:00 AM
Response to Original message
13. It should still be a full hand recount
Leaving aside the issue of fraud, a full handcount and comparison with the machines will be a validity and reliability test of the technology, which is sorely needed in any case. The issue of cost is insincere - after all, the U.S. is supposed to be spending hundreds of billions to selflessly bring democracy to Iraq, so a few millions or tens of millions to assure democracy is on track in the homeland is hardly unreasonable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:07 AM
Response to Original message
14. Let me guess. Blackwell gets to choose which 3% to "hand count"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 02:10 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. If you read the article its nots Blackwells call its how the vote
counts correlate with the certified numbers if there is discrepency in some of them then they HAVE TO GO TO A RECOUNT BY HAND!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 05:23 AM
Response to Original message
17. count every FREAKING vote!!
Edited on Thu Dec-09-04 05:24 AM by 48percenter
100%, Total, Alles...

And why is does that official in Clermont Co. have his boxers in a twist? Afraid of being exposed?? Afraid that the Stark Co. rule was true after all?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-09-04 06:04 AM
Response to Original message
18. Duplicate
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 07:33 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC