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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:13 PM
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NBC: U.S. to boost armored Humvee output
The U.S. Army has asked the company that is producing fully armored Humvees to expand the Army’s order to 550 per month, an increase of 100 a month, NBC News learned Friday.

~snip~

As reported Thursday on NBC's “Nightly News,” the company, Armor Holdings, which adds the armor package to Army Humvees at its plant in Cincinnati, Ohio, said it could increase its production by 100 vehicles per month.

The Army hadn't asked for more vehicles, but when Pentagon and Army officials learned of the company's claim, they called the company and made the request of 100 more per month.

Pentagon officials said the company had told the Army it only had the capacity to produce 450 of the vehicles per month. On Friday, the company told the Army it actually has the capacity to produce 550 per month but was turning out 100 armored vehicles per month for other clients.

With a revised contract, the Army will get the 8,100 fully armored Humvees it had ordered two months early — in March instead of May — at no additional cost.

~snip~

more: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6694474/


If the Pentagon thinks this is going away, because they "finally" ordered 100 extra vehicles a month. They are nuts. :eyes: How many do the troops lose a month?? How many troops are still going to be without armored vehicles before the order is complete?? Why the hell didn't they plan for this in 2000, while they were planning the war in Iraq?

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Tess49 Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:22 PM
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2. Notice that Rummie and Cretin Boy tried to blame it on the manufacturers?
I listened to CEO's from both the Humvee plant and the plant that manufactures some kind of kit used on them, say that they've been under producing. Both said the Pentagon hasn't asked for more. Once again, the admin. tries to blame someone else for their misdeeds.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:26 PM
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4. there's another plant in AZ, IIRC...maybe that's the one for the kits
and I heard the same...no extra orders from the Pentagon
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:27 PM
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5. I'll believe it
when those armored vehicles are actually IN Iraq and every single servicemember in need of an armored vehicle HAS one.

Too bad they didn't do this in time to SAVE LIVES or anything, the bastard rats.
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pipes Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:29 PM
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6. Well that clears that up, damn pesky soldiers!
Move along people nothing to see here. No shortage no more! Thats right just keep moving along people...nothing more to see
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:31 PM
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7.  The solution is always to buy more...
I thought I heard the problem wasn't the Humvees, but was the trucks that carried supplies.

Anyway, the Republicans are good with the spin. This isn't about sending people off to war to make money for big business without caring enough about their safety. It's about not buying enough shit from the people who are really making a lot of money from this war.

Like I said, the solution is ALWAYS to transfer more taxpayer wealth to a private corporations. That will solve EVERY problem, don't you know.
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Tess49 Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:41 PM
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10. May be the supply trucks
I was thinking Humvee, but don't know a tank from a truck, really. At any rate, this lack of equipment is shameful -- as if the war isn't bad enough.
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radar Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:34 PM
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8. This might lead the soldiers
...to see how they can use the media to their advantage; pointing out other things they get screwed at by the leaders.

Bulletproof vests, for example.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:41 PM
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9. And in a related story .........
A Shitsville County farmer was observed closing his red barn's door. The door closing followed close on the heels of an earlier reported barn breakout by three of the farmer's prized Holsteins.

A spokesman for the Holsteins cite long standing lack of lanolin commonly used in the milking process.

The Holsteins have retained a lawyer and are currently seeking asylum in Canada
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 06:42 PM
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11. Sen. Durbin laid into Rummy over this...
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:06 PM
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12. too late to save too many, the bastards, n/t
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:13 PM
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13. Oh, Lemme Guess ... Halliburton's delivering them ...
The problem isn't that the gov't is short-funding the troops, the problem is that the money is going to crooked contractors who siphon the money for other purposes while providing the very minimum to the troops to meet the terms of their contracts.

It's the greedy ratfucks in the middle who are profiting from this war, who want it to continue on indefinitely.


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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:24 PM
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14. was thinking the same...Halliburton hasn't figured out the contractor yet
:shrug:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-10-04 07:43 PM
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15. uh oh...snag, Army may need more funding from Congress
Edited on Fri Dec-10-04 07:46 PM by maddezmom
In addition, the Army would also have to go to Congress for additional funding if Armor Holdings sought more money, officials said.


The Army has ordered 8,105 of the armored Humvees, and 5,910 are in Iraq (news - web sites), Afghanistan (news - web sites) and nearby countries. Armor Holdings is already producing 450 a month, meaning they would be finished sometime in the early spring. Any increased production by the company before then would accelerate the completion of the order.


Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfield, responding to a soldier's complaint about not enough armored vehicles for the troops, said Wednesday the Army was working to produce more armored vehicles, but it was "a matter of physics, not a matter of money," suggesting that production lines at operating at capacity.


But Armor Holdings spokesman Michael Fox said Thursday that the company recently completed an analysis after the Marines inquired about buying 50 to 100 armored vehicles each month.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&ncid=693&e=6&u=/ap/20041211/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/armored_humvees

Well Rummy, looks to be both $$$$$ and Physics...along with poor planning. :eyes:
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